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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

I wonder, if older ships are reinstated, in wartime for example, can they recieve a new, higher registry?
Does anyone know what the absolute highest, and therefore newest, shipreg is?

Also, I'd like to know the most recent stardate, if not voyager then perhaps in some novel or comicbook you've read?

And no thanks, hold the fries. Have to mind the figure.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

The highest canon rego that I know of is the one for the Sao Paulo - NCC-75633, IIRC.

I can certainly see merit in your idea about reinstated ships being given higher (current) rego numbers. It comes to mind that it would be a nice way to explain why the Excelsior Melbourne has such a high number. Also, they do the same thing with cars over here in West Australia. There's plenty of old rust buckets sporting new plates after they've been put back on the road. I wonder why they don't just reuse the old plates - you'd think there'd be a good reason.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Well, if any of the Austrailian states have changed their plates in the past decade or so, those old rustbuckets could have had plates from before the change, but were off the road. Once they were put back on, new plates were needed.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Well the you get a new number-plate when you get a new registration... i.e. after the old-one was left to run out, you've moved interstate, you've bought a second hand car that had personalised number plates etc...

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

My thoughts exactly! Besides, does anyone like "know" the newest stardate?? Hmmmm?

Whoops, now I thought of some more nuggets for you die-hard trukkers!

- In TNG, what/when was the first five-figure reg shown?

- What is the lowest canon five-figure ship?

- When/Why do deflector dishes change colour/brightness?

Hey! Haven't seen you for a while, Dax. Been busy/occupied?

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Posted by johnboy on :

Well, the first time I am aware of that you could actually SEE a five digit registry was in "The Wounded" .... the Nebula Class Phoenix had a registry of NCC-65420 and that could be seen in the first shot.
Most of the other five digit registries in TNG were published in various sources (encyclopoedia, etc) but couldn't be made out on the screen. Even though almost every starfleet ship the Enterprise encountered had a 5 digit registry, the ships we saw close up tended to not have the registry visible (aka the Brattain, which had the registry NCC-21166 painted on the model, but the closeup shot only showed the ship name, not number). The few ships you could actually read the numbers on were the Stargazer (2893) Hathaway (2593) Bozeman (1941), Repulse (2544 - visible on it's shuttlecraft anyway) .... again, oddly enough, the old 4 digit numbers.
Many of the models in the Wolf 359 graveyard scene had 5 digit registries put on them, but they were so small on screen you couldn't read them.
So the irony here was that Gene Roddenbery determined early on that the way you distinguish TNG era ships were that they had 5 digit registries.... and then for seven seasons we practially never actually see any!

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

I have a stardate creator somewhere, I'll let you know the date when I get back.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

The lowest canon 5 digit registry is NCC-10376 of the U.S.S. Hermes.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

The date as of September 17th 2000 is 53715.83

At least I think this thing is right.

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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

TNG registries in order of appearance

NCC-1701-D USS Enterprise
"Encounter at Farpoint"
(from model)

NCC-1701 USS Enterprise
"Lonely Among Us"
(from Shuttlecraft Galileo)

NCC-2893 USS Stargazer
"The Battle"
(from model)

NCC-1700 USS Constitution
"Datalore"
(from computer screen)

NCC-2544 USS Repulse
"The Child"
(from shuttlecraft)

NCC-1305-E USS Yamato
"Where Silence Has Lease"
(Incorrect registry.)
(Cmdr. Riker says registry)

NCC-71807 USS Yamato
"Contagion"
(from computer screen)

NCC-2593 USS Hathaway
"Peak Performance"
(from model)

NCC-7100
"Who Watches the Watchers?"
(from model)

NCC-1701-C USS Enterprise
"Yesterday's Enterprise"
(from model)

NCC-45167 USS Aries
"Identity Crisis"
(from shuttlecraft)

NCC-9754 USS Victory
"Identity Crisis"
(from computer screen)

NCC-21166 USS Brattain
"Night Terrors"
(from model, seen on port nacelle)

NCC-8000 USS Cochrane
"The Drumhead"
(from model)

NCC-71620 USS Ahwahnee
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-11574 USS Ajax
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-62158 USS Akagi
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-42285 USS Charleston
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-71805 USS Endeavor
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-26517 USS Excalibur
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-59621 USS Goddard
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-10376 USS Hermes
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-42296 USS Hood
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-45231 USS Hornet
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-61827 USS Merrimack
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-72015 USS Sutherland
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-65530 USS Thomas Paine
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-21382 USS Tian Nan Men
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-37124 USS Trieste
"Redemption, Part 2"
(from computer screen)

NCC-173 USS Essex
"Power Play"
(from dialogue)

NCC-1941 USS Bozeman
"Cause and Effect"
(from model)

NCC-2010 USS Jenolan
"Relics"
(from computer screen)

NCC-1701-A USS Enterprise
"Relics"
(from dialogue)

NCC-1701-B USS Enterprise
"Relics"
(from dialogue)

NCC-53847 USS Pegasus
"The Pegasus"
(from model)

NCC-58925 USS Pasteur
"All Good Things..."
(from model)

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

TLE: Thanks but I meant the current stardate in Trek, not real life.

But now that you mention it, isn't THAT stardate a bit close to 2375?

targetemployee: Very nice list. That Yamato though, do you mean that Riker's statement was uncanon?

Is the Yamato a galaxy-class? If not, I think it should deserve to be one because of the historic reference.
I mean, the four japanese Yamato-class battleships were the mightiest ships of all time. Their only drawback was their bad gun-control, optical instead of radar...

�on Flux, "Thanatophobia"

Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

The Yamato was a Galaxy-class-vessel.

1305-E
An early draft for that episode (Where Silence Has Lease) gave the number as NCC-1305-E, which didn't fit into the numbering scheme developed for starships in TNG. Mike Okuda wrote a note to the producers, requesting the number be changed, but didn't send the memo because a later draft of that script dropped the reference to the Yamato's registry number. Mike wasn't aware that an even-later draft of the script restored the scene and the incorrect number. By the time he found out, he had already prepared the markings for the USS Yamato saucer, for the scene when that ship blew up in the episode "Contagion", as well as the ship's log computer screens for that episode.
source: Encyclopedia 3
http://fitz8472.hypermart.net/yamato.jpg

Does anyone have a pic of the Constitution-computer screen, NCC-8000-model and Jenolan-computer screen?

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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

The highest non-canon rego I know of is NCC-80000 for the lead ship of the Qapla' class (what's in a name...), a 2360s ship.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

FOUR Yamato-class battleships? Nononononono...TWO. :::thinks for a moment::: Well, two & a HALF. Remember Shinano...

:::in a dismissive British nobility tone::: Alpha's obviously never been to my site where I accidentally posted my USS Buran model about a year ahead of schedule--with an NX-100000 registry, she's not supposed to commission until the end of this year. Oops. My fault on the math. So I guess the highest one that "really" exists is J�ga, NCC-99007. :{�

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well they had plans for four!!! (Wow, almost an argument!)

Aawright, I stand erected...

Yes, the first "Galaxy" family was that of four...

Hm, don't think I've seen "Contagion". Is it sweet?

And who's this Cheryl? I mean J�ga!?
And did the S�o P�olo get to keep it's registry after the Defiantation, or did the yucky NX follow?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Only the name of the Sao Paulo was changed. Technically. However, the model wasn't altered for the final scenes, so an eagle-eyed viewer would be able to catch the Defiant's registry where it shouldn't be.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Eagle-eyed?! You'd have to be legally blind not to see that! *L*

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Nimrod: I didn't design the thing, lol. I suppose it is broken. heh.

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

Fitz: I�m sorry, but what do you mean by
"Does anyone have a pic of the Constitution-computer screen, NCC-8000-model and Jenolan-computer screen?"

Was this shown onscreen?

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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

Fitz is referring to the list I provided.
A refitted Constitution Class starship is seen from above in "Datalore". The registry of the ship is readable. There is no name on the hull.

In "The Drumhead", an Oberth Class starship is seen from the port. This ship has I believe the registry NCC-8000. TNG: Companion and Star Trek.Com identify ship as the USS Cochrane.

Later in TNG, an okudagram in "Relics" reads: "USS Jenolan. Sydney Class Transport. NCC-2010".

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

And if backstage pictures count, then the ones on the Jenolan (see the IDIC Page ) show a barely readable NCC-2010 on the nacelle. You have to know the registry in advance to be able to interpret the scribbling, though.

Then again, these pics also confirm that the ship was named the Jenolin...

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Ummmm, what was the Registry of the Tsiolkovsky SP? From "The Naked Now" wouldn't that have been the first 5 digit number?

Andrew

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Nimrod: I've been here all the time - I've just been hiding in the shadows. I visit this forum almost every day, but these days I only bother to post when something particularly sparks my interest. It would seem that, rather than contributing directly, I've attained a sad fetish for passive observation

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well, forums wouldn't be what they are without the silent observers, floating out there, waiting...

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

The new Voyager promo states a date of 540xx (can't remember the last two numbers at the moment).

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well that sounds fresh. Thanks! I'll check the dotcom.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Andrew: Indeed, the first 5 digit registry seen was that of the Tsiolkovsky, but the lowest is the Hermes.

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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

The registry of the USS Tsiolkovsky is not visible to the average viewer of the episode. I included only those registries that could be read on the screen. So the question could be answered in one of two ways-
a. by episodes. This would be the USS Yamato NCC-71807.
b. by reference materials. This would be the USS Tsiolkovsy NCC-53911.

I may have inadvertently left out a registry on my list. In "Sins of the Father", the registry of the USS Intrepid is given on an okudagram as NCC-38907.

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