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Posted by [email protected] on :

Can someone tell me what class of Starship Kang commanded in Voyager's "FLASH BACK" episode?

JDW

Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Well, welcome to Flare dude, but, are you sure you didn't confuse the e-mail box with the nickname box? Anywho, I believe they were just normal K't'ingas in "Flashback"

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Posted by [email protected] on :

Thanks for replying to my question, there is one thing though that I would like to bring to your attention, if Kang's battlecruiser was of the K't'inga class what happened to the aft torpedo tube!? Kang's ship didn't have one.

JDW

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Like UK subs, that's where they store the beer....or ale....or whatever.....

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

It might be a variation of the K'tinga class ... most likely possibility, I'd say.

Someone Klingon thought, "gee, if only we could fire BEHIND us ... "

And so ...

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Here's the derriere of Kang's mount in "Flashback":
http://w1.314.telia.com/~u31412329/ship/klingmeeting.jpg

Here's a TOS ship from a similar angle:
http://w1.314.telia.com/~u31412329/ship/klingond7rear.jpg

Unfortunately, I have seen no shots of the rear ends of the cruisers in ST:TMP where we saw the aft torpedo tube in action. However, the "Flashback" ship seems to have at least *some* sort of an orifice in the appropriate position.

Obviously, the "Flashback" model is the TMP ship revamped for ST6, and I can see how the modelmakers of ST6 might have wished to eliminate the aft tube from what was supposed to be a "diplomatic" ship, a command vessel of some sort. The modelers of "Flashback" might have wanted to add something of their own as well. But it is equally possible that the aft end was not altered at all from its initial TMP appearance.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Okay, so here is the aft end of the ST6-revamped "Qo'noS One" K't'inga:
http://members.aol.com/IDICPage/TMPKlingon.html

The aft end looks quite different from Kang's ship. Then again, the rounded thingamabob in the Qo'noS One doesn't look much like a torpedo tube, since there is a structure in the center, obscuring the opening.

This could be a comm antenna of some sort for this "command ship", or then perhaps an energy weapon. Kang's ship could have a torp launcher different from the TMP ship launcher, or then possibly a mine dispenser or some other device. Perhaps all K't'ingas were built to accept a variety of modules in this location, according to their mission?

Still looking for pictures of the butt end of the TMP ship...

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

Well, check out star trek in sound and vision: http://www.stinsv.com/MOv/st1v3.htm#Klingon

As you can see, it has a similar round structure to that of Kronos 1.
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Posted by [email protected] on :

Thanks to everyone who has tried to answer my question about Kang's ship in "Flash Back".
Like the Motion Picture's(1-6) Enterprise,is it possible that Kang's ship is a modernized D7?

JDW

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

I think it is theoretically possible. Then again, the forward hulls of the two variants are very different from each other. If a refit was performed, it probably included completely removing the forward pod and replacing it with a new structure...

Personally, I think that most of the K't'ingas are not refitted D-7 ships, but instead newbuilds patterned on a prototype that was refitted from a D-7. This would give them a little bit of added structural and design life, helping explain why this type soldiers on in the TNG era.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"Then again, the forward hulls of the two variants are very different from each other."

I dunno. Are they more different than the TOS Enterprise/TMP Enterprise, which had an enlarged saucer, completely different warp nacelles and deflector dish, and a different interconnecting dorsal?

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

PsyLiam isn't that little signature under your name what the charracter in Dragonball Z says?

Yes and Yes. K'Tinga in all opinion probably fits better in D-7 and then the Enterprise in the orginal design. I would guess that about 50% of the D-7 was still kept and about 10% of the Constitution class (this makes it easier but don't shoot me) Enterprise class.

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Posted by [email protected] on :

Did anybody notice the chart laying on the table in the Klingon conference room in Star Trek VI? If I wasn't seeing things I think it showed the types of battlecruisers which made up the Klingon fleet.

JDW

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

That map certainly was interesting. Apparently, there were only K't'inga and BoP silhouettes there, but they were clustered in an intriguing way, possibly symbolizing fleet strengths. They *could* have represented externally nearly identical variants of the designs, though, so each silhouette would have marked a different ship (sub-)class.

I wonder if this map still exists somewhere in Paramount vaults or the bowels of Okuda's Mac. There could be lots of interesting stuff there. Planetary locations, ship statistics, or just in-jokes written in English but with Klingon alphabet. I doubt there were any new Klingon ship designs shown, though.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I'd go with the in-joke thing, personally. You know, maybe if they spent less time being funny and more time checking long lists of ship registries *rant8

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There, wasn't that interesting?

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