Are the sliding doors on star trek hung on tracks and moved like curtains are?
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Er...do you mean in reality or in "reality"? The set features two guys who pull the sides of the door out and push them in on the appropriate cue. I'm somewhat curious as to what alternate method you've envisioned.
I love the simpsons-ep where Nimoy tries to explain that to some drunks in a bar but nobody's interested.
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Posted by BRUTUS on :
I mean on the set. See, I don't think two guys pull them open and push them closed...I don't know if you were meaning to explain it as simply as that. I think one rope does it....like in a curtain. I was just curious if they used pulleys or what? When I tried sketching it out (didn't spend a heck of a lot of time, and I'm no mechanical genius) it just got so convoluted to make them separate and close on the pull of one rope...but my curtains do that, so it's obviously not complicated. The only other method I can think of is how they achieve it for the little bridge play set...2 toothed rods on a wheel...obviosly, forcing one rod one way forces the other the other way. And they add a spring in this case to make them close automatically...but they don't have that on the set.
Erm...sorry for wasting people's time, I was just curious.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
I don't know how they do it. That rod/spring sounds like a good possibility.
How's about the same tech we have in elevator doors, guys?
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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Been in a supermarket lately? Nice automatic sliding doors they have.....
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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
I think Brutus means how they got them to work on the set, not how Starfleet has them set up.
The supermarket doors are too sensative, they open if a LEAF blows in front of a sensor. Have you seen the doors on TNG/DS9/VOY? They've got a sense of drama ...
I doubt they're interns. I bet there's some sort of union in Hollywood, like the "International Brotherhood of Pseudoautomatic Sliding Door Operators."
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I hope they're union. Otherwise they'd soon find themselves out of a job the first time one of them doesn't pull hard enough and Robert Beltran clunks his noggin.
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I suppose there were boys hauling them wheels in the DS9-airlocks too, huh? And those gates that roll up from the floor, they were pulled up by ropes, huh?
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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Tsk. It's obvious. The doors are moved by using technology.
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Posted by Starbuck (Member # 153) on :
To paraphrase Mike Okuda... "Quite nicely, thank you."
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Ach, he said that about them transporter-compensators too! He should have a special stamp for that, like the "Find Him And Kill Him".
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Posted by spyone on :
In TOS, I'm told, it was two guys, one on each side. In TNG, I think they had something better. Given that the bloopers I've seen all show the doors NOT opening (as opposed to one open and the other not), I'm guessing that they employ SOME mechanism to open both doors at once.
Probably they work similarly to elevator doors, and a Union Tech Guy somewhere throws a switch to open them.
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
Since I work at a supermarket, (I'm a teenager!) those sliding doors don't exactly work all the time. I remember some of those doors rapidly opening and closing on their own. In the 60's it was a two man system in the 80's and 90's IT is the supermarket technique just modified for Star Trek use. Those sliding doors don't cost that much, somewhere in between 3,000 to about 9,000. Nothing in a Trek budget.
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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
...unless they outfit EVERY door on EVERY set with them ... I mean, there are five sets of doors on the TNG bridge (two turbolift, cpt's ready room, battle bridge turbolift, conference room)
Besides which, the doors might prove to be more sensative. I don't think they're truly "automatic" doors but more a manually worked mechanism.
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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
The sensitivty should be adjustable, there is also a pressure plate type that could be used, with the old door opener throwing a switch to turn it on.
Manuel Door Openers, from the PAD Union Auto Door Opener with sensor Eye Auto Door Opener with sensor Plate
If the bloopers show doors not opening, or half opening, then they really scimped on the price, so a it wouldn't be too much, especially since the doors are, probably, nothing more than ply wood. The mechanisms would be too costly, for a light duty door like that. If it's the Union guys bucking for a pay raise or some screen time, then replace them or give it to them.
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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
I think that they use a pulley mechanism. When I was like, four, I remeber watching Levar Burton's Reading Rainbow. Don't laugh. He did an episode on his work in Star Trek and I think they showed a cut of a guy using some sort of mechanism to open the turbolift doors on the bridge. If not there, I saw it somewnere else.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
The doors can't have a sensor, because we've seen people stand in front of the doors, yet they don't open until the person actually wants to leave. Plus there was an outtake where one of the Defiant's doors didn't open and someone walked right into it (whoops...). I think it's just some guy with a button who's cued to open it.
Besides, if it were two guys on top, the doors wouldn't open at the same time, and it'd look odd. Especially the big holodeck doors.
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Consider TNG's "Conspiracy" ... where Riker gets thrown THROUGH a pair of doors ...
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
It was LaForge who was thrown through the doors. And they probably had the doors opened, but in it's place two wooden boards that could be detached or fall apart easily without taking part of the set apart.
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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Can you imagine the chaos sensors would cause? Doors would open all the time, interupting Very Important Speeches. All tension would be lost, and no-one would ever watch Trek ever again.
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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Riker ... LaForge ... who can tell the difference?
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Posted by BRUTUS on :
There is no sensor...as some have pointed out the doors open only when they are supposed to, not when people are close to them. I'm positive it's a rope or whatever and not a switch as they sometimes open and close at different speeds and some slow considerably before closing completely, while others do not. Also, I saw that Reading Rainbow show as well!
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Liam: Speeches? Do the brass hold their orations in the corridor nowadays? And Very Important ones too... Like, that typical american, Academy-Award winning pep-talk before a biig battle?
Uhm...I'm done now.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
LOL!
*Red Alert*
Then cut to the corridors where we see the doors going heywire because of all the people moving briskly throughout the corridors...
Picard: "Were has all the ships power gone?" Data: "Its the doors, Sir, they're responding to the people in the corridor, who are responding to red alert."
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Where Have All The Power Gone,
long time pa-assing,
where have all the power gone,
a long long time ago...
where have all the power gone,
went to sensors, all the juice,
when will they ever learn,
when will they eeeeeveeer learn???
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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
*kills Nimrod*
To be fair, they don't often hold Very Important Speeches (or Conversations) in corridors. However, there are at least 5 million instances where Mr "Jeff" is in his office/ready room/bath, and tells his number one/major/monkey that "That'll be all". Said person goes to leave, and walks up to the doors. THEY DON'T OPEN. This indicates to the aformentioned number one/major/monkey boy that THE CONVERSATION IS NOT OVER, and they return to protest Mr "Jeff's" decision to enter the badlands/abandon the chase/invite the borg around for mixed doubles.
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Yes, I believe I deserved that. You see, I misunderstood your first post, so my joke came out all wrong. Didn't see the underlying hint about people stopping to turn around.
The song was sincere though, albeit horrible!
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