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Posted by [email protected] on :

Was the starship Reliant seen in Star Trek II smaller than the Enterprise or the same length?
Watching the chase scenes into the Mutara Nebula the Reliant appears to be the same length!

JDW

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Well, since the forward "saucer" of the Reliant was almost identical to the Enterprise, it has to be shorter, although it would be the same width as the Enterprise at their widest points.

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Reliant is definatly smaller. It's just a little cousin of Enterprise.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Later responsible for the inbred "cousin Soyuz". And fittingly, evolution teaches that flawed specimens are shortlived.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Unlike the real Soyuz, which is still doing nicely.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Hmm what? You mean a boat or something?

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

*gasps* check out the Russian space program....

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Dunno if I'd call ferrying cargo and the odd astronaut or two doing nicely...

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Or being relegated to "lifepod duty" for the ISS. Personally, I'd rather tak my chances on a module breach than step foot in a Soyuz capsule. Their "safety record" (if it can even be called as such) is atrocious.

On a related tangent, the Chinese variant, the Shenzhou capsules, are FAR more capable & versatile. I saw we cut the fuckin' Russians out & cozy up to the Chinese. They'll be on the moon by the end of the decade anyway.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Atrocious? As I recall, only two crews were killed in 1967 (Soyuz 1) and 1971 (Soyuz 11) for a total of four people, and one exploded on the pad in 1983 (but the crew escape rocket functioned just fine). Am I missing some things here? Considering the volume of Soyuz launches over the decades compared to the Shuttle, I don't think it's THAT bad. The only thing that really sucks is the construction - they're not rated to last longer than six months in space before they start to fall apart.

Shenzhou? It's *allegedly* much better than the Soyuz, despite looking about the same (but bigger). We won't really know until the Chinese break down and actually tell us something of what's going on over there.
http://www.friends-partners.org/~mwade/craft/shenzhou.htm
http://www.friends-partners.org/~mwade/project/soyuz.htm

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Don't worry, the Soyuz wont be used on the ISS for long. It's gonna be replaced by the X-37 in a couple of years. It's sort of a really shrunken down version of the X-33 VentureStar, used as an escape pod only.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Now if they could bolt X-37 to the end of a Soyuz booster...

The ISS definitely needs some way to move personnel up and down on a regular basis, without having to send up an entire shuttle. While waiting for transporter technology to be perfected, one could do some feasibility studies on whether X-37 could do the job of Hermes, riding atop an Ariane V if not atop a Soyuz. Even that would be cheaper than using the shuttle.

The X-37 would of course need some sort of an expendable propulsion and maneuvering module, but that was part of the Hermes plans, too.

Timo Saloniemi