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Posted by Pro. Portside on :

well I got around to going through the Star Trek The Magaazine's May issue. I should have ran over my head with a mac truck insted.

While I am happy with the info given for the Grisson and the other Oberth class ships, the Refit E-D was enough to have me doing my virsion of the rain man.

SO I have came to you today to humbly ask for any information on the Refit E-D you could bring me. I am looking for info on that mess behind the bridge(it is siting on top of the main shuttle bay) the function of the things to port & starbord of the bridge.

Thanks

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Sensors, I believe the conventional wisdom has them as.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Or an annex to the main shuttle bay. Or point-defense.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I need pictures...

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Well, you could just go to http://www.shiporama.org/ . . .

Or here are a few choice blurred vidcaps:
http://www.shiporama.org/images/galaxy/refitd2.jpg
http://www.shiporama.org/images/galaxy/refitd6.jpg
http://www.shiporama.org/images/galaxy/refitd32.jpg
http://www.shiporama.org/images/galaxy/refitd34.jpg

And some magazine shots. I recognise that guy. . .
http://www.shiporama.org/Images/Galaxy/Future4.jpg
http://www.shiporama.org/Images/Galaxy/future5.jpg

But now I�ve brought Star Trek into it again, haven�t I. Sorry."

- James Lileks, 09/04/2001

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

16 November, -98. Wow, you don't see a lot of those anymore. They usually put them to death.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Ol' Don Pedro hasn't touched his site in a hwhile. Is he working on something else, something newer?

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Indeed he is. I believe is current project is called "a family".

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

From Star Trek Mechanics (via Bernd): http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/mechanics/agt-parts.jpg

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Posted by Zor Prime on :

Why is everything that Trek has that looks a bit odd, passed off as sensors?
The forward nav deflector/sensor/whatever on the forn of Voyager's saucer section (with the little door on it), was wondered about when the show started.
Then, it turns out to be, guess what... a nav sensor thingy. Deflector I believe.
But anyway, Dave had a great idea for what it could be, and I still think he should have it as that in his deck plans. Dave, you know what I'm talking about...

Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Are you talking about that yellow thing cut into the top of the saucer? That's the auxiliary navigational deflector dish.

If you're talking about that thing inset into the front edge of the saucer, I don't think there's any question about what that is, that's a standard docking ring. It probably functions as a gangway hatch while in docked at a station. Otherwise, it accepts any pod with the apporpriate docking mechanism.

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

And basically, it's not all that far-fetched to call any strange addition to an existing design a "sensor". After all, when you see strange additions to the masts and superstructures of today's warships, they usually are sensors. It's difficult to fit in a new weapon, because those require power and often also generate a recoil or a blast - but you can dangle a new sensor wherever you can pull a cable, be it off starboard side or up in the crow's nest.

Trek refitting could be suspected to suffer from similar limitations. If a major new weapon was fitted, then major new power trunkage and structural supports would be required as well. Would any exist next to the saucer shuttlebay?

OTOH, TNG ships are supposed to have modular sensor berths. Since we usually never see a sensor as anything more than a complex greebling on the surface of the ship, an installation of such distinctive shape as the E-D prongs or the Soyuz lances strikes us as odd and unsensorlike. But perhaps this is just the way new sensors are introduced - first as oddball mounts on semi-experimental converted starships, then miniaturized for practical use aboard regular ships.

If we don't want to call those things sensors, then they could be weapons (with those pointy ends towards the enemy). Their exposed location also makes it possible they are docking clamps or receptables of some sort. They definitely serve to make life miserable for shuttle pilots (who already have to take care to avoid the third nacelle).

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Zor Prime:
Do you mean my point-defense reference (wild-ass guess)?

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Well, if it helps anyone with guesses, those things P/S of the bridge are sitting right on top of the upper hull docking mechanisms. According to TNG:TM and the Ent-D deckplans, they are used as gangways during docking. So, theoretically, they have shafts beneath them that could hold all sorts of nefarious wiring and support structures.

Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :

For those who care, I was riffling through my Making of DS9 book, and there's a blueprint of the Saratoga bridge -- complete with ceiling structures...

--Jonah

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

AAAAAAGH! POST IT! POST IT! *takes several deep breaths* Please? You can do it in that other thread if you find it more apropos.