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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MinutiaeMan</b> <br /><small>Member # 444</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,17,20,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 17, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:19 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Just how big of a "bang" can you get from contemporary explosive devices that are detonated in outer space? We've seen examples of rather large explosions very close to our perspective (the ship) but not affecting that ship very much. Just how close do you need to be to make a big impact?<P>If I were to guess, I'd say that a bomb would have less effect in space because there would be no pressure wave. I'm not familiar with the dynamics of an explosion, but I'd bet that most of the damage within a certain area is caused by the pressure wave of the air being pushed outward, not by the explosion itself.<P>So just how big a "boom" do you need?<P>Point of reference: Tonight I saw a "Babylon 5" rerun, and there was a nuclear detonation of 500,000 megatons about 5,000 kilometers away. It didn't damage the station one bit. Is this realistic? The same thing would logically apply to the Trek universe as well. One direct application I'm thinking of is proximity blasts.<P>------------------<BR>You know, you really should keep a personal log. Why bore others needlessly?<BR><A HREF="http://www.st-minutiae.com/" TARGET=_blank>The Gigantic Collection of Star Trek Minutiae</A><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Masao</b> <br /><small>Member # 232</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,17,20,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 17, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:32 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Good question! In an explosion, what is the main cause of the destruction: air (or water for subs) pressure, the hot gases and plasma (?) of the explosive, shrapnel of the casing or what? <P>------------------<BR>When you're in the Sol system, come visit the <A HREF="http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/sfmuseum/index.htm" TARGET=_blank> Starfleet Museum </A><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,18,1,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 18, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:11 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> e) All of the above <P> <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/wink.gif"><P>------------------<BR>"And as it is, it is cheaper than drinking."<BR>-DT on arguing with Omega, April 30<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,18,2,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 18, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:45 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <A HREF="http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/waw/mad/mad12.html" TARGET=_blank>http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/waw/mad/mad12.html</A> <P>------------------<BR>OH NO< THE OLD MAN WALKS HIS GREEN DOG THAT SHOTS PINBALLS!~!!! <BR>--<BR>Jeff K<BR>****<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/simsizer/chapter1.html" TARGET=_blank>Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet" and nothing at all will happen.</A><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MinutiaeMan</b> <br /><small>Member # 444</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,18,14,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 18, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!<P>------------------<BR>You know, you really should keep a personal log. Why bore others needlessly?<BR><A HREF="http://www.st-minutiae.com/" TARGET=_blank>The Gigantic Collection of Star Trek Minutiae</A><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Saltah'na</b> <br /><small>Member # 33</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,19,12,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 19, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:05 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Fav Explosions:<P>- USS Oddysey in Jem'Hedar<BR>- USS Enterprise (second explosion) in Cause and Effect<BR>- Tie Between USS Defiant and USS Valiant<BR>- USS Majestic and USS Seatag (but why did they have to be Miranda Class ships?)<BR>- BoP in STVI (but did they reuse the same footage in Generations?)<BR>- USS Enterprise in STIII<BR>- USS Enterprise Stardrive section in Generations (see that pre-explosion, then the real thing)<P>------------------<BR>"Intelligence People. You guys are <I>unbelievable</I>. You dump a mess like this (that you created) on my lap, and then you come to me whining 'Where is our funding'? Well I'll tell you where your funding is. Can you say <I>Health-Care</I>"<BR>- The President of the United States of America, <I>The Long Kiss Goodnight</I> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TheF0rce</b> <br /><small>Member # 533</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,19,12,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 19, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:50 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> i say released energy <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif">and radiation <P>i don't think there is air is space so a nuclear explosion would not work the same way it would in space as it would in an atmosphere. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,20,3,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 20, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:34 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Seatag!?! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"> Wasn't it the Sitak!?!<P>What about the Yamato! and the Borg Cube in BOBW above Earth!<P>------------------<BR>Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.<BR> Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.<BR>Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lee</b> <br /><small>Member # 393</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,21,12,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:31 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> And yes, they re-used the ST:VI footage in <i>Generations</i>. . .<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://www.leenet.demon.co.uk/phaser/" TARGET=_blank>Phasers</A><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,21,13,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:43 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The "bobbwie cube" had such a violent explosion, that was nice.<P>------------------<BR>"Babies haven't any hair;<BR>old men's heads are just as bare;<BR>between the cradle and the grave<BR>lies a haircut and a shave."<P><I>Samuel Hoffenstein</I> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Omega</b> <br /><small>Member # 91</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,21,23,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yeah, I've always heard that the reason a nuke could level a city was that there's not much that can stand up to air compressed to the density of steel moving at the speed of sound.<P>MM:<P>Five hundred THOUSAND megatons? 500 GIGATONS? Half a <I>TERRATON</I>! That'd be enough to take out the moon! Or at least a good sized chunk of it.<P>------------------<BR>"How do you define fool?"<BR>"I don't attempt it. I wait for demonstrations. They inevitably surpass my imagination."<BR> - CJ Cherryh, Invader<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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