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Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

According to canonical sources, the DY class ships were in operation in the time period of the new series. Do you think that there will be a DY Class ship?

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

Would be a nice detail, although I doubt they'll realise this.

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

I would be neat if they did but I doubt it, as they will probably make ships that look like they belong in Star Wars or something.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

The whole DY concept is obsolete since "First Contact", "One Small Step" and recently "Friendship One", where a completely different evolution of starship designs was outlined - from present-day capsules to capsules with warp drive. The DY ships just don't fit in - and even if they would, the whole idea of using the same ship design for centuries was silly from the very beginning. The same basic type of ship should have been used between at least 1996 and 2123 (or even 2266 - the Woden), although WW III and the development of warp drive should have changed everything? I could never believe that, and I can rather discard the brief LCARS display from "Up the Long Ladder" than forget the three above prominent events. "Enterprise" will do the rest to devaluate the idea of DY ships. The new series should at least show a reasonable development from the Phoenix to the Daedalus, but I doubt they will manage even that, so history will be rewritten once again.

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Posted by Joshua Bell (Member # 327) on :

If the DY series is based around a really robust spaceframe it's possible that these pre-warp ships could be given warp drive just by plugging new modules on the side. The Phoenix, Friendship One and Mars craft were all experimental or single-use ships; the DY ships represent a distinct lineage of cargo vessels.

In the face of portrayals of early-21st Century exploration (including the Charybdis), the whole Khan-in-the-1990s thing is really straining credibility now, but "Friendship One" indicates that Earth has some degree of adaptable space infrastructure in place during the mid 2100's. Cochrane - a well funded mad scientist - launching a one-off demonstration made of spit and bailing wire is conceivable. Sending out Friendship One implies time to design, build and launch the thing.

I'd be willing to buy that the DY series of heavy cargo transports were launched from Earth starting in the 1990s. Maybe they're built by the Russians or Chinese (or some other superpower) and strapped to Energia-type boosters; in any case, lots of them are lofted into space and used for hauling stuff around on orbit - to Mir2 or a moonbase, perhaps. Khan & crew took one that was sitting on the pad for a three hour tour. Meanwhile, NASA is still sending its spindly little single-use tin cans out to explore Mars and Saturn.

A few hundred of them are tooling around the solar system by the early 21st Century, until the war starts. At that point, who knows - they might be abandoned or used for ordanance delivery. Whatever the case, Cochrane doesn't have one to play with so he straps his nacelles onto a spare Titan missile.

Once warp drive is figured out, UESPA builds the spindly-but-efficient Friendship One and sends it on its way. Meanwhile some enterprising entrepreneurs take some DY cargo modules and build inboard warp coils. Sure, they might fry the crew, but they're much cheaper to build and maintain than UESPA's contraptions. Suddenly there's a run on the old hulks. Some are upgraded, some are newly built. The entrepreneurs buy out the old "DY" corporation and continue to adapt the design. This leads from the DY-100 to other modular cargo ships and even eventually to a remarkably similar DY-500 a century later.