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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fleet Captain</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,21,23,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:24 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Hello all<BR>I'm new here to the forum and I have a question I hope<BR>you can answer. <BR>I'm working on drawing various Starships and wanted to<BR>draw up a good version of the NCC-1701 (movie version)<BR>for reference as a starting point. I'm wondering what<BR>book or website has the most accurate picture to work<BR>from. <BR>I've got several books to work from, and I think that <BR>either the exterior diagrams from "Mr. Scott's Guide..." or "Ships of the Star Fleet" have the best drawings, but I'm not entirely sure. <P>Any help would be appreciated.<P>------------------<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,22,1,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:40 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Did you want Diagrams or pictures... for nice pictures try "The Art of Star Trek" or for a nice cover picture try "Star Trek: A History In Pictures" One of the two alternate covers was a new pic with the NCC-1701 refit/A.<P>------------------<BR>Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.<BR> Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.<BR>Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MIB</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,22,10,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:49 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> ahhhhh. A newbie. Before you can become one of us, you have to go through certian tests (some of them painful) to see if you are worthy of a fine forum establishment such as this! MUHAHAHAHAHA!! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR>"I don't mind being called a liar when I'm lying, or am about to lie, or have just finished lying, but NOT WHEN I'M TELLING THE TRUTH!------Homer Simpson.<p>[This message has been edited by MIB (edited May 22, 2001).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Treknophyle</b> <br /><small>Member # 509</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,22,15,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Welcome.<P>Try Bernd's Ex Astris Scientia<P>Cool site - plenty od schematics.<P>------------------<BR>Faster than light - no left or right. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MIB</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,22,17,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes. Ex Astris Scientia is the BEST starship website to have ever existed with the exception of Utopia Planitia 1 and 2. (Both sites were kick ass!!) Speaking of which, What ever happened to UP3? I e-mailed them once or twice before offering my help, but I never got a reply from the creators telling me what I can do. <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/frown.gif"><P>------------------<BR>"I don't mind being called a liar when I'm lying, or am about to lie, or have just finished lying, but NOT WHEN I'M TELLING THE TRUTH!-----Homer Simpson. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>akb1979</b> <br /><small>Member # 557</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,22,18,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:06 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Try: <A HREF="http://www.shipschematics.net/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.shipschematics.net/</A> <P>Unfortunately the site is experiencing bandwidth problems - whatever that means - but if you put a search through Yahoo! "ship schematics" or "starship schematics" or something close to these, you should get LOADS of sites to chose from.<P>Or, these might be of interest to you; <A HREF="http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/heavycruiser_constttn_up2.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/heavycruiser_constttn_up2.jpg</A> <BR>And <A HREF="http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/heavycruiser_enterprise.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/heavycruiser_enterprise.jpg</A> <P>Both are from the site mentioned above.<p>[This message has been edited by akb1979 (edited May 22, 2001).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,22,18,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:14 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> MIB: How's your boots? Good and comfy? What? A bit tight? I see...<BR>Guys, what should we do?<P>------------------<BR>"Babies haven't any hair;<BR>old men's heads are just as bare;<BR>between the cradle and the grave<BR>lies a haircut and a shave."<P><I>Samuel Hoffenstein</I> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MIB</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,23,0,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 23, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:33 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> ummmmm ok. Is this supposed to be a hint of some kind? Assume I'm an ideot. Just tell me what you're hinting at.<P>------------------<BR>"I don't mind being called a liar when I'm lying, or am about to lie, or have just finished lying, but NOT WHEN I'M TELLING THE TRUTH!-----Homer Simpson. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fleet Captain</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,25,0,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:16 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I have seen most of those websites before, and while useful, they don't have quite what I'm looking for.<BR>I have several books with schematics (such as Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise; Ships of the Star Fleet; And Jackill's.)<P>What I'm wondering is, are any of the schematics better (or more accurate) than any of the others. I believe that the Jackill's aren't quite as accurate<BR>(in addition to the smaller picture size)<P>Thanks <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Zor Prime</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,25,2,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:09 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I assume the most accurate would be the Motion Picture blueprints.<BR>Drawn by Andrew Probert (?)<BR>The ones in Scott's Guide are the exact same ones I think (except for the cross section).<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Treknophyle</b> <br /><small>Member # 509</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,25,12,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:47 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Without tooting my own horn - try Starfleet Prototype. The drawings are vector-based (more accurate than hand-drawn) - and I think I included the Enterprise-A.<P>------------------<BR>Faster than light - no left or right. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MrNeutron</b> <br /><small>Member # 524</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,26,12,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 26, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Slightly off-topic...in the past I've seen people post images in their messages, but I can't seem to see a function for doing that here. Can anyone clue me in?<P>Thanks! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>akb1979</b> <br /><small>Member # 557</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,4,26,14,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 26, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:19 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Sadly the website mentioned in my previous message has now closed. <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/frown.gif"><P>mrneutron: I think (more senior members please correct me if I am wrong) that you need to wait until you've made 50 messages in order to add an image into the message - I could be wrong, seeing as how I am fairly new to all of this.<P>To add links of pictures use the info below, kindly given to me by another (more senior) member of this forum. You know who you are - thanks! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><BR> <A HREF="http://flareupload.hypermart.net/psupload.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://flareupload.hypermart.net/psupload.htm</A> <BR>You can upload your pic here. Just search for you pic on your hard drive and click the button to upload. <BR>The pic should be in this directory then. <A HREF="http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/" TARGET=_blank>http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/</A> <BR>Once you've uploaded, it'll tell you the link to it. You can copy that link and paste it in your message like I told you before.<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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