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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,4,15,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:44 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> From <a href=http://www.lcarscom.net/johneaves.htm>this interview</a> w/John Eaves, some interesting tidbits about his work in the art department/production design end of things is going. Judging by his comments about Bakula, the interview sounds like it might be two weeks old.<P><li>The Ent negative-A has something of an Akira-esque look to it, and is smaller than a Constitution, but they haven't yet nailed down an exact length figure as of the time of the interview. (Please oh please not another Defiantgate)<P><li>Eaves pitched the idea of using the TMP ship that everyone's been clamouring about here. (Mercifully) said idea was quickly disposed of.<P><li>Everyone's apparently quite pleased with the interior look that got developed, and sets got designed in a relatively straightforward manner. Exterior stuff was a little more convoluted.<P><li>Conflicting word on whether the show'll have transporters or not... Eaves kinda alludes to their not being transporters, which the alleged review of the pilot script at AICN and the DoP said were present. Perhaps transporters might be so iffy that shuttlecraft are the dominant means of transport still?<P><li>As noted in another thread, Eaves description of the dates seems to lean the show closer to the mid 22nd century rather than "the hundred years from now" comments we've been hearing from Noonan.<p>[ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MIB</b> <br /><small>Member # 426</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,4,18,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:28 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> An Akira-esque look eh? Interesting. I like the name for it. The Enterprise-minus A. I'm gonna use that from now on. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>targetemployee</b> <br /><small>Member # 217</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,4,19,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:10 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Mr. Eaves says that they have completed the interiors first and are designing the exterior of this new Enterprise. Is this the first time that the design process has started with the interiors for a primary ship for a series in Star Trek? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mark Nguyen</b> <br /><small>Member # 469</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,4,20,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:30 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ent Minus A is cool, but I shall be using another moniker for this Enterprise: The Pre-E. <P>Mark <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,4,21,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:09 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Or we could call the TOS ship the Ent-AA and the new one the Ent-AAA. 'Course, then we might have to call Picard's most recent ship the Ent-DD. Everyone remember the USS <i>Pamela Anderson</i>? *L* <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,4,21,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:28 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I suspect that sets and exterior visuals are usually designed concurrently. There are time pressures, after all. (This is just a suspicion, of course.) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,4,22,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 04, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:43 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Interiors, would, in most cases at least, come before exteriors, I think. The sets need to be finished before shooting, which for most big pilots (like Enterprise) could take place up to 6 months before airing. The exterior doesn't need to be finalized until VFX work starts, which I imagine won't be for another month or so. The Ent-E, for instance, got an interior shortly before an exterior, as evidenced by the slightly inaccurate MSD in First Contact and the whole 24 decks/26 decks mess. Likewise, some of the video monitors on Voyager showed a rotating image of the ship that was a little different to the final version (ie nacelle positions). <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aban Rune</b> <br /><small>Member # 226</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,5,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:53 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> What is the "TMP" ship that had been considered for use? I've never heard that? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,10,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:43 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The S.S. Enterprise.<P><A HREF="http://titan.spaceports.com/~nzcabac/PreFederation/Enterprise.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://titan.spaceports.com/~nzcabac/PreFederation/Enterprise.htm</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aban Rune</b> <br /><small>Member # 226</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,11,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:19 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> OH YAH...thank goodness they didn't use that... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>J</b> <br /><small>Member # 608</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,13,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:22 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I prefer Ent -A because of it's demeaning title. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Siegfried</b> <br /><small>Member # 29</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,13,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:34 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Speaking on the interiors versus the exteriors, I have the Enterprise-D blueprints. In the interview booklet that came with it, Andrew Probert made a remark that he was supervising the construction of the bridge and other sets when David Gerrold came into his office and saw a concept drawing of what the Enterprise-D might look like. Gene Roddenberry approved the design direction after seeing it.<P>Evidently, in The Next Generation, the interior set construction was already started before there was even a completed final design for the starship herself. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>NightWing</b> <br /><small>Member # 4</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,14,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:06 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Sounds like the ship is going to look somewhat like Friendship One... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,14,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:23 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> In what is certainly going to make TrekWeb look like downright idiots, they're now promoting fan art now confirmed as from the TrekBBS.com art forum as apparently-leaked design sketches. *giggle*<P><A HREF="http://talk.trekweb.com/articles/2001/06/05/991764588.html" TARGET=_blank>http://talk.trekweb.com/articles/2001/06/05/991764588.html</A><P><A HREF="http://trekbbs.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001201.html" TARGET=_blank>http://trekbbs.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001201.html</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Daniel</b> <br /><small>Member # 453</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,14,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:41 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I don't know if I should create a new thread for this or what, but a few comments on the S.S. Enterprise:<P>Why did whoever drew up those schematics think that the people would inhabit that cutesy little pod thing extended away from the "engine" rings?<P>If I were designing a starship that looked like that, I'd have it set up a wee bit differently. I'd put the crew and cargo areas in the rings and the main reactor/power generation system in the pod. Anyway, a couple of reasons, and I know there are problems with some of my logic, but bear with me here.<P>One, and rather obvious, is that in case there was an accident and the reactor was going to explode, it's far away from the crew, and could be ejected easily.<P>Two, although in reality I think more than one support is necessary to properly distribute the mass and motion, I always thought those rings spun, creating gravity of sorts for the ship's inhabitants. It might be more power economical than maintaining a grav field, if that ship is as behind the times as I think.<P>But what about that pod in the center of the rings you say? I think it's a Bussard ramscoop. It collects interstellar gases with an intense electromagnetic field and shoots them back to the main reactor (possibly via linear particle acceleration through that connecting tube, but I think that would take too much energy).<P>If there were a solar flare or a wave of intense radiation, the crew might be able to use the magnetic field as a barrier or a shield.<P>Anyway, my thoughts. Now back to your regularly scheduled posting. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,5,21,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 05, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:39 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The general assumption is that the ring is actually the ship's warp drive. Though I don't think that's based on anything. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,7,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:41 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> About John Eaves nixing the idea of using the TMP SS Enterprise<P>WELL of COURSE... if this series is in the hands of Mr. Anti-continuity himself - Branon Braga... he would NOT want any links to the 'actual' past of Trek...<P>Funny, though - he's fucking it up for himself because those ships were supposed to be 'famous' Enterprise ships... and I guess that means that the Enterprise A- wasn't as famous as even the 'spaceshuttle' Enterprise!?!<P>Unless, and it just hit me - the TMP DVD directors cut is coming out now at the END of the year - they'll probably stick a picture of the Enterprise A- in there instead of the SS Enterprise... revisionist historians...<P>Ahhhh look I really couldn't give a crap if between series there isn't ABSOLUTE continuity - its just what got me in Voyager there was discontinuity WITHIN the one show. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>bear</b> <br /><small>Member # 124</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,7,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:49 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I personally like the SS Enterprise. I love the idea that the rings could have been some type of experimental warp nacelle that wasn't practical for some reason. It could have been replaced with a proven duel nacelle design after trials were finished. The design in general is a little tin cannish but so was the original Enterprise. I believe it could be done tastefuly to preserve continuity, but we are talking about Berman and his minions.<p>[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: bear ] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>pIn'a' Sov</b> <br /><small>Member # 293</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,7,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:54 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I�m sorry, but this ship is not the movie enterprise, is it? Isn�t this the design by Matt Jeffries of a concept for the original enterprise? I thought the TMP design was this:<BR><A HREF="http://members.nbci.com/pinasov/fleet/phaseIIprot.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://members.nbci.com/pinasov/fleet/phaseIIprot.jpg</A><P>(it�s a xoom, so copy-and-paste everyone) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,8,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:21 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Eaves meant the ship <B>in</B> TMP. An image of this ship was displayed on the rec deck.<p>[ June 06, 2001: Message edited by: Spike ] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,12,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:31 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> And anyway, we can't blame Eaves for anything. Although B&B care less for continuity than previous bigwigs, there are still people like Okuda. I trust Okuda, Westmore and Eaves to give Enterprise a convincing 22nd century look and keeping up with continuity best they can. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,14,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:52 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> For ****'s sake, they ARE the previous bigwigs. Christ on a molybdenum crutch! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Masao</b> <br /><small>Member # 232</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,16,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:52 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> pIn'a' Sov: That's a design for Phase II, the aborted series that sort of turned into the movie. The design is by Ralph McQuarrie. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>pIn'a' Sov</b> <br /><small>Member # 293</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,6,23,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 06, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:54 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yeah, I know, that�s why I named the pic phaseII, but wasn�t the design featured in the discussions for the TMP movie-enterprise?<P>Well, that�s moot anyway if he meant the ship shown in TMP. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Wes1701E</b> <br /><small>Member # 212</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,11,13,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 11, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> "The Ent negative-A has something of an Akira-esque look to it..." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I AM A VERY HAPPY PERSON!! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,5,12,0,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 12, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:32 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I AM NOT!! <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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