I've just found a web site with awesome starship pictures: Starship Pictures
If this doesn't work, then I'll make another link.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
OK, it did work. Enjoy the pictures. I wish they were really from "Sacrifice of Angels," but you can only wish.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Wow. There's even a Cheyenne. I think I'll use this for my desktop.
Hey, but only the first page loads. The others all have little red X's.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Looking at my printed out pages, I see at least 9 Intrepids, 4 Sovereigns, 3 Yeagers, 4 Defiants, 4 Galaxies, and many others. It's a dream come true. (Send this to the producers,somebody, and beg them to make a TV Movie and put this scene in it until they can't stand it and make one.) Oh, I've seen the other page before, it's Romulan ships and such. No more Starfleet ones.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
There are even some rarer ones in there too. Like Sydneys, Apollos, New-Orleanses, Olympics, Peregrines, Constellations, and (**cue angelic choir**) Ambassadors.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Since when do we have a design for the Apollo class?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
The Apollo is that Vulcan design, the T'Pau type.
Wait. I'll correct myself before I start an argument. That is what I, and many others, believe. This is based on the T'Pau's entry in the Encyclopedia's shiplist, which lists its class as Apollo.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Good move.
[ July 25, 2001: Message edited by: Reverend ]
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
One of these days, one of us will finally unearth a photo of the U.S.S. Gage model from the unused "Emissary" footage. We will all then bow down to that as-yet unknown person and kiss his/her feet. We will all then accept this model as the official Apollo Class starship, although it was not canonically seen in the episode. There will no longer be any question as to the existence of the Apollo class, or if the Vulcan ship T'pau was of that class.
This is the Word of Dukhat.
[ July 25, 2001: Message edited by: Dukhat ]
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
Say, can anyone put some links in for pictures from the second and third (and forth?) pages that you might have downloaded please as when I go to the pages, the pictures don't load. Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
I'll try,akb1979. For those of you who don't see teh T'Pau design, it's in the second pic, to the top right of the big Defiant, to the left of the Oberth. I see some Steamrunners and Centaurs and New Orleans class ships there, too. Now, there's a ship at the top of the page, above the big Akira. It's on top of an Intrepid and above a Galaxy. It has a blue deflector.I think it's an Ambassador. FYI, it was in "Call to Arms." Or, it's an Excelsior.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Sorry. Couldn't get any more links. All the pictures on the site are X's. Who knows why Okuda put the T'Pau on a STARFLEET ship list. The Vico was there, I admit, but why not things like the Santa Maria, the Shiku Maru, the Artemis, the Odin, or the Milan? Those were Federation ships, too!
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Sorry. Couldn't get any more links. All the pictures on the site are X's. Who knows why Okuda put the T'Pau on a STARFLEET ship list. The Vico was there, I admit, but why not things like the Santa Maria, the Shiku Maru, the Artemis, the Odin, or the Milan? Those were Federation ships, too!
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Curses! A double post!
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
I've talked to the guy who made those pictures before in some online discussions. He has his own website Star Trek: Utopia. It hasn't been updated in awhile, but there are a few additional nice pics. It's on Geocities, so you'll have to cut and paste. The URL is "http://www.geocities.com/area51/Dimension/8041/". Make sure you select the "no frames" option on the main page. To get to the art faster, use "http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/8041/art.html".
Check out the Enterprise-E getting the crap kicked out of it by the Defiant at "http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/8041/defiant/ente/defvsee.jpg".
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Maybe 'cause it came out of a STARFLEET surplus depot. (Qualor II) Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Veers said:
"Now, there's a ship at the top of the page, above the big Akira. It's on top of an Intrepid and above a Galaxy. It has a blue deflector. I think it's an Ambassador. FYI, it was in "Call to Arms." Or, it's an Excelsior."
That's a Steamrunner.
--Jonah
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
No, no, no! It's at the top of the page, at the very top. Place your finger on the deflector of the big Akira in the center, and move it up to where the picture stops. Your finger should be near a ship with nacelles and white lighting, and a light blue deflector dish. That doesn't look like a Steamrunner to me. Watch your tape of "Call to Arms," and it'll be there, towards the top of the screen.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Be reminded a lot of those ships aren't from episodes, they are CGI creations...
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
It's a Steamrunner. Trust us this debate was had a great length a few years back. People that ship was everything from a Constitution to an Oberth. But after much headbanging sane people all agreed that it's a Steamrunner.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
IT IS NOT A STEAMRUNNER! It's got nacelles connected to the main hull by those pylons! It's got a saucer! A STEAMRUNNER DOES NOT! It's a regular ship design, not from FC! A Steamruner has nacelles built into the hull! Someone back me up! The ship at the top of the page, by the Intrepid, is not a Steamrunner! Grrrrr...
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
The steamrunner does have a saucer. And that's the engineering/deflector pod not the secondary hull. Those nacelles connect to the upper side of the saucer, you can see that they visually touch the saucer but because this is an underside shot you can't see the distinctive join.
It is a Steamrunner. We've been here before. It's an old, old topic.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Definitely.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
OK, now that I look at it, I can sort of see the resemblence. Just, could someone enlarge it? That may take me over to the Steamrunner side of the Force.
Please?
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
*looks in Encyclopeida*
D'oh! It is a Steamrunner! The famous Marshal was worng! Quick! Don't tell Lord Vader!
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Well, shit! I coulda told you that! Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
You were worng? Interesting.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
In the words of Han Solo, Empire Strikes Back: "Laugh it up, fuzzball."
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Hey, it happens. Nothing is more embarassing than shooting with an unstrung bow, but as long as we keep our heads everything should be able to be worked out.
I, too, fell victim to the insidious optical illusion that is the Steamrunner. I spent the entire summer hiatus after "Call to Arms" aired looping that final fleet shot. It wasn't until I saw that one of those "Constitutions" -- when seen from an oblque angle -- didn't have an interconnecting dorsal. That's when it clicked for me, and I could go back to hunting down the fourth Defiant...
--Jonah
P.S. Little aside, but considering the size of that fleet, the fact that in that huge fleet we had three other Defiants moving in fairly close proximity, and the fact that the original Defiant headed for that spot in particular to fall in... I know it can't be proved or disproved, but I tend to believe that Defiants optimally operate in squadrons (or packs ) of four.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Um, I may be wrong (I accidentaly taped over most of that scene), but I thought that there were only two other Defiants in that scene, and the Defiant was that third one.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Anyone have pics of that scene? It would be greatly appreciated, and no doubt the subject of more debates.
Grrrrr...
