Tonight's episode "Terra Nova" is about the first colonists outside the solar system. Their ship is shown on diagrams on the Enterprise (has some Defiant styling-cues, but nacelles like the Enterprise). The name was writtin on a bulkhead but was hard to see because it was eroded. It appeared to say S.S. Conc.......but that's all I could get. Anyone else get it?
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I saw the ship, but I couldn't make out any of the ship name. Hopefully they'll show a shot of it again in the episode.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
We also have learned Phlox's species.
Denobulan.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Yeah, I caught that. I thought that they were going to be waiting for a later episode this season to reveal this information on Phlox. Hmm...
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
S.S. CONESTOGA
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Okay, we've got your answer, The359. Apparently, the ship was called the Constova. I'm far from certain about the spelling, but I think I've got it spelled fairly phonetically.
Darn it, you beat me to it! Looks like you got closer to the name, though.
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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Conestoga means Covered Wagon in German, so it makes sense.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
It reminded me of a Sovereign when I saw it on that monitor.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Huh?
Personally, I thought it resembled those transports from The Empire Strikes Back, only not quite so lumpy and with nacelles.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
So, any screenshots of the colony ship?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
if it was by any chance the ship from the credits shown right before Enterprise...Aban will be happy. But if it was, I'm sure someone who's actually seen the episode would've said so by now, huh?
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
We only saw the ship from the front, so it's impossible to tell if it's the same ship from the opening credits.
Posted by Woodside Kid (Member # 699) on :
It's not the ship from the opening credits. That vessel has a roughly delta-wing cross section (it looks a little bit like what the Ralph McQuarrie Phase II secondary hull might have looked from the rear) with a hint of a circular structure forward. The ship on Mayweather's display (which was shown from several angles) looks nothing like it. Sol System's description is pretty good, actually.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I am *so* feeling like Timo right now...
Mark
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Since I didn't tape the episode, I can't go back and see what it looks like. But I can say the first thing I thought of when I saw it was the Sovereign. I don't know why, but that's what happened. Maybe this is what the Milan or Odin or those other colony ships from TNG looked like.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Now I have a whole whoping 2 ships on my Earth Fleet Ship List....
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
You should have more than three:
Akiraprise Conastoga The opening credits ship from Enterprise All the DY vessels The Y vessel, unless we want it to be DY The Valiant and The Phoenix would be nice to add
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
well, I'm still figuring out what exactly the cut off date will be for my list. If we knew a date for the formation of "Starfleet" that'd help..
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Last I checked, "conestoga" meant "covered wagon" in English, too...
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Which begs the question, which language originated this word? It's not as if post-Columbus English would have words of sufficient similarity. Is it from some native American language?
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
From britannica.com
quote:horse-drawn freight wagon that originated during the 18th century in the Conestoga Creek region of Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, U.S. Ideally suited for hauling freight over bad roads, the Conestoga wagon had a capacity of up to six tons, a floor curved up at each end to prevent the contents from shifting inside, and a white canvas cover to protect against bad weather;
quote:Susquehanna, also called Susquehannock or Conestoga Iroquoian-speaking American Indians who lived in palisaded towns along the Susquehanna River in what are now New York, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. Little is known of Susquehanna political organization, but they are thought to have been subdivided into several subtribes and clans; the name may have referred originally to a confederacy of tribes. Like other Iroquoian…
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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
To throw in my bit of elementary school history, Pennsylvannia had (might still have, actually) a large community of Germans and Dutch. So, there could still be a case for it either way.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the origin of the word is "The name of a town in Pennsylvania and of a local Indian people, prob. f. some Iroquoian word.".
