1. The only widely known Riker Maneuvre that is probably know, is the one he pulls on the ladies.
2. It should be called the Odo maneuvre, since it was Odo who first performed this tactic. Go and watch the great episode "Vortex" [DS9]. Odo uses the pockets of volatile gases ?were they called Naidairs? to destroy the pursuing Miradorn ship, in the Charmra Vortex.
Riker Maneuvre... you boot-licker Geordi.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Yes, but if Riker did it first -- I can't remember if he did or not -- then why would they call it the 'Riker Manuever'?
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
My theory is that the Star Trek Magazine is ran by idiots.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Just one question: WTF?
I doubt anyone will ever call that "the Riker Maneuver" other than Geordi. And he was joking. And he probably had no idea what Odo had ever done.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Indeed. I guess such tactics are not frequently used, since starships don't usually venture into deadly environments like that. So people could reinvent the tactic over and over, and it would soon fall into obscurity since the chance to use it would not arise again.
It's very different for Picard maneuver, which seems to be a natural corollary of the existence of FTL drives and sensors and the noticeable speed difference between the two. Granted, there were *some* special circumstances involved in the "Battle of Maxia", but the general situation should have been faced by hundreds of Starfleet captains before. And of course by thousands of captains from other races that later joined Starfleet and provided input.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
The gas in "Vortex" was called Tomair (sp?)...don't remember what gas it was in Insurrection?
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
toh-maire
And Insurrection's gas was metreon plasma, which is a different cup of tea from toh-maire because of its wierd *insert technobabble here* effects, as documented in 'Jetrel'
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
Riker scooped up the gas into the bussard collectors, and then 'shoved it up their throat'. Odo did not do that.
Posted by Raw Cadet (Member # 725) on :
Nor could Odo have had a female trill officer look at him lewdly if he, too, had said "shove it down their throat."
[ November 02, 2001: Message edited by: Raw Cadet ]
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
Nor was Odo in the most powerful vessel ever constructed by Starfleet, which was having its butt wiped by some obsecure alien race that only days before was having its butt wiped by a lowly scout vessel.
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
Doesn't the "Riker Maneuver" have something to do with the warp core as well?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I assumed that the technique that Geordie nicknamed the 'Riker Maneuvre' was using explosive gases while inside nebulous material to create an explosion that destroys any nearby ship.
How do we not know that Toh-Maire (thanks for that) is not Croden's race's name for Metreon gas. And why the fuck did they call those gases in the Briar patch Metreon gases - that was a name for a gas or a weapon from a race 75,000 light years away. The federation probably has its own name for it... Fart Gas or something.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
So the Riker Maneuver and the Fart-Gas Maneuver are actually one and the same? That explains why his relationships never really last that long.. and that funny walk of his. Even though he is looking foolish waddling with his buttocks firmly clenched, we know there is a deadly surpise waiting for anyone who chooses to mess with him.
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
Up, down, in, out, whatever...
The warpcore was already out the ship. They ejected it to close the subspace rift (or what ever it was called).
The 'Riker Maneuver' was the one destroying one ship, and cripling the other.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I suspect "metreon" is supposed to be an English word for something we don't know about yet, and the use of it in VOY was the usual translation we get for almost all other dialogue in the show.
"Toh-maire", though, is obviously supposed to be an actual alien word, rather than an English equivalent.
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
Voyager seems to like using words already 'explained' in other series or movies. Like a Mutara (sp?) class nebula.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Um.. actually, the Voyager episode with metreon-mania came first. Insurrection took it from them. $ $ $ Voyager Season 1 Spoilers!
'Jetrel' had the evil Haakonian Dr. Jetrel (who looks kind of like Admiral Alidar Jarok) deciding that he doesnt like being evil.
Dr. Jetrel (who resembles Dr. Mora Pol) had previously created the 'metreon cascade' a vicious destructive force that vaporized all life on Rinax, but left it habitable for its Haakonian conquerors.
Dr. Jetrel (who kinda reminds me of an alternate future version of Alexander who has taken the name K'Mtar) decided that to redeem himself, he had to reverse the cascade, which will allow all the people of Rinax to magically reform(!!) and live again. This would include Neelix's family.
What a wonderful property of metreon gas! (Luckily it turned out he was lying.. I'm more surprised that Voyager's crew believed him. 'Gee lts get looking in the atmosphere for the molecules that used to be people, and put them back together again' 'Sure, that sounds easy!')
And I've noticed that the movies actually like to pick up long lost factoids from obscure episodes. Like 'Generations' revealing that Guinan was El-Aurian, the El-Aurians having been introduced in a really bizarre second season DS9 that made no reference to her, just their listening abilities.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
You mean the episode with Chris Sarandon (best known as the evil Prince Humperdink from 'The Princess Bride' -- and ex-hubby of you-know-who) as a rival gambler out for Quark's business?
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
Dude, that guy is awesome. We watched Uncle Vanya on 42nd Street in drama class last year and I couldn't remember the actor's name to associate with the Uncle Vanya character he played so on my little handout sheet thingy I put a note next to Vanya as 'Grand Nagus'
Wow...what a run-on sentence...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I think you're thinking of Wallace Shawn, who played Grand Nagus Zek, and the short bald bad guy (I forget the name) in The Princess Bride.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Vinzini.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
No more rhyming now, I mean it.
Anybody want a peanut?
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
The Riker Maneuver should refer to anytime you a) cripple your ship when faced by inferior odds b) drive a starship into a planet.(with all the space out there it's hard to hit a planet) I don't know I wouldn't let this guy ride my bike let alone a starship. Maybe in the next movie he can hit a star. Paul
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
LOL I can just picture ET: The Extraterrestrail with Riker... on the bike... "Eeeeee Teeeeee Phoooonnneee - ouch! Riker! You BLOODY IDIOT!"
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
And Riker's last words before he hits the ground?
'RED a-lert!!!'
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
It's not "RED a-lert!!!"....it's "RrrrrrrrrrrrrredaLERT!"
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Speaking of the ubiquitous Wallace Shawn... I saw him in another movie today playing a Jerry Springer-type talkshow host on a Canadian movie called "Stardom". It was on Showtime Australia this morning. Anyway it also had Frank Langella SP? (Minister Jaro DS9 season 2) and Leni Parker (Da'an from Earth: Final Conflict). Bizarre Leni Parker IS Da'an. LOL! Such a cool character. Anyway I digress... from what I don't know this post had no real particular point! Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Frank Langella was Skeletor!! woooooo
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