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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mark Nguyen</b> <br /><small>Member # 469</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,20,21,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 20, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:24 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> A cow's butt full of tech tidbits here! Let's get going:<p>-As the show opens, the Pre-E is tooling along when they get a staticcy call rom Adm. Forrest. The comm situation was shaky, but was apparently going to be remedied when they deplyed the first comm relay station (which they were getting ready to do).<p>-Porthos is back!<p>-The ship? Y-class freighter ECS Fortunate. Maximum speed of Warp 1.8, crew complement of 23 (not counting anyone who gets born along the way). There were 24 people aboard when they found her. Armament on these ships is typically only one low-yield plasma cannon for anti-meteorduties, though according to Travis many ships tend to upgrade when they can. <p>-The ship looks fantastic. It's a spial arrangement, with eight seperable pods and twin nacelles tucked between the aftmost sets. The interior is pieced from Pre-E sets and new stuff, and lit differently to cover it up. A pretty good effect, actually, though one of the chairs on thier bridge has been seen on TNG-era bridges for years... <p>-There are at least two plasma cannons mounted on the pods on the starboard side, and two more on the bow. Effective range is less than ten kilometers (yikes!)<p>-A few shots from a plasma pistol will cause a breach in the hull. Two shots from the shipboard cannons can disable the long-range sensors on the Pre-E. <p>-When Starfleet recieved the distress call, the nearest Starfleet ship was three weeks away at its maximum speed, though the Pre-E could get there in a day and a half. But if the Enterprise was so close relatively, why didn't they get the distress call too?<p>-Travis was concieved and born on the J-class freighter Horizon halfway along the run between Dralax and Vega Colony, and is "a little smaller" than a Y-class. His folks are still alive and aboard the Horizon. Another ship mentioned was the NOrth Star, which met an unfortunate incident that was not detailed.<p>-Waitaminit - HORIZON? (Dum dum duuummmmm)<p>-Naussicans are described here as pirates, and had been around for years. Travis's folks had run into them at some point. Anyway, they have relatively small ships, but some pretty good shielding. They also have a really spiffy asteroid base complete with docking arms and stuff.<p>-There are apparently plans for the next generation of frieghters to be equipped with the Warp 5 engines. The math here is that even at Warp 3, a 5-year frieghter run at 1.8 would be cut down to six months. Anyone care to confirm that? Anyway, the frieghter crew wasn't too thrilled at it - they seem quite content with warp 1.8. <p>-Chef kicks ass. Hello, children!<p>-There are three more "NX-class" ships on the drawing boards. Are we seeing a naming convention forming here in this era?<p>Mark <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>targetemployee</b> <br /><small>Member # 217</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,0,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:11 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> In the episode "Mudd's Women", Harcourt Fenton Mudd and three beauties were traveling to a mining colony on an old <b>J-Class Cargo Vessel</b>. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,0,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:29 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Mmmm... continuity porn....<p><br />And NX class it is, eh? Interesting. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,0,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:52 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Did they actually say "NX-class"? I hope they're going to stick to this "class == beginning of registry" for the Earth ships. That would make things nice... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>targetemployee</b> <br /><small>Member # 217</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,1,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:02 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Timo</b> <br /><small>Member # 245</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,2,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:29 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Continuity-porn, part 2 ("The Revenge"):<p>Note the Vegan colony, familiar to the viewers of "The Cage".<p>Anyhow, this letter-class naming convention is a mucho cool idea, and we should all flog ourselves with wet cauliflowers for not having come up with it before. It makes perfect sense now that Kirk and McGivers speak of "DY class" in "Space Seed" - ship classes from that era would indeed be known by letter codes, not only by the geeks who now call a Hornet an "F/A-18" and a B-52 a "Stratofortress", but also by the public who now calls a Hornet a Hornet and a B-52 a B-52, following the CNN pattern. Thus the later generations would also be familiar with that nomenclature.<p>Furthermore, it's actually *innovative*. I don't think any historical navy has actually used such a designation system so far. Sure, each navy may have "S class patrol boats" or some other such single type at a time, but only amidst "properly" named other classes. And it doesn't appear as if the Starfleet usage would be similar to the British "L class cruisers" where all the cruisers had names beginning with L, either. No, it's something completely new = something very good.<p>BTW, does anyone have pics of the Fortunate? Vidiot's page doesn't have the usual promo material yet, and for some reason I can't open the promo reel from the site advertised at Trekweb or TrekToday. <p>Timo Saloniemi <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Timo</b> <br /><small>Member # 245</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,4,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:33 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> About that math... It looks as if the cubic formula would only shorten the trip to twelve months, not to six. Or conversely, that an engine would need to be capable of almost warp 3.9 in order to shorten the trip as required. So perhaps we have to assume that the person speaking was referring to a cruise speed of warp 3 for the new ship, and a cruise speed of warp 1.4 for the current ship, even though the *maximum* speed of the current design is higher.<p>Or then the cubic formula is not really in use. Since we have only travel-time estimates to go by, without any indication of the actual distances, we can't tell from these data alone.<p>Timo Saloniemi <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MIB</b> <br /><small>Member # 426</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,8,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:29 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The Horizon huh? Let me guess, in a future episode the Horizon gets sucked into the firey pits of HELL!!!!!! Right? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> <br /><small>Member # 37</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,8,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:30 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Hmmm....Letter classes. I like this idea. So if this matches the pattern set by the NX-01, then the Fortunate's registry would be something like Y-47?<p>And for some reason I don't think the Horizon mentioned here could be the same one at Sigma Iotia II, because why would a freighter be exploring a rather archaic civilization like that? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> <br /><small>Member # 37</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,8,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:36 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Now that I think about it, does someone have the list of all those pre-Federation ships from "Up The Long Ladder"? I seem to remember some of them having weird registry combinations... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Mighty Monkey of Mim</b> <br /><small>Member # 646</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,8,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:49 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Here:<br /><a href="http://www.8ung.at/fitz/other_ships/pics/display10.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.8ung.at/fitz/other_ships/pics/display10.jpg</a><br />Frome Spike's Page. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> <br /><small>Member # 37</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,10,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:24 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> OK, now if NX-01 means it's the first ship of the NX Class, then how exactly do we explain the DY-500, DY-500-B, and DY-500-C? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,12,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:17 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Different system. If "DY" worked this same way, there could only be a single "DY-100" because that would be a registry number. But "DY-100" is a class. I guess, since the DYs were around from the 1990s, they just kept those old designations. The NX, J, and Y classes are all later developments, and have a different nomenclature.<p>BTW, the "Up the Long Ladder" ships had NAR registries, IIRC. Presumably, NAR is just a regular Earth registry, while NX, J, Y, &c. are Earth Starfleet registries, or something. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,13,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:42 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Perhaps N was the designator for explorer/cruisers so far...& since <I>Enterprise</I> & her soon-to-be sisters are of a newer, more advanced design, they've been called the "NX," similar to how the "Peacekeeper" missile was the MX & the RAH-66 "Comanche" was the LHX. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> <br /><small>Member # 37</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,17,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:09 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'm going to take a stab at this and guess ECS means Earth Cargo Ship, since that's how T'Pol worded it ("The Earth Cargo Ship Fortunate") <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,19,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:31 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Odd. Monkey-boy's post w/ the Okudagram wasn't there when I posted before...<p>Anyway, I guess it was just the one ship that had an NAR. Nevermind. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Malnurtured Snay</b> <br /><small>Member # 411</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,19,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:37 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>When Starfleet recieved the distress call, the nearest Starfleet ship was three weeks away at its maximum speed, though the Pre-E could get there in a day and a half. But if the Enterprise was so close relatively, why didn't they get the distress call too?<hr></blockquote><p>That doesn't mean the Enterprise was actually closer. The other Starfleet ship probably recieved the distress call, and informed Starfleet. Starfleet thought, "hmm, this ship is ten lights years away. The Enterprise is 12 lights year away. But! At Warp 5, Enterprise can be there first!" <p>No error (in my mind, anyhoo)<p>[ November 21, 2001: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snay ]</p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Mighty Monkey of Mim</b> <br /><small>Member # 646</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,19,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:53 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ya gotta love a guy who brings up an inconsistency that isn't really an inconsistency, and then shows you that the inconsistency isn't really an inconsistency, in the same paragraph.<p>Snay, like a reciprocal fraction, cancels himself out. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Malnurtured Snay</b> <br /><small>Member # 411</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,20,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:14 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ooops. That first paragraph was supposed to be quoted. It was from Mark's original post.<p>I mean, yes, love me.<p>[ November 21, 2001: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snay ]</p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mark Nguyen</b> <br /><small>Member # 469</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,21,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:39 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Huh? What? <p>What I'm saying is that if the other ship were closer relatively speaking, shouldn't the Pre-E have recieved the distress signal anyway, instead of waiting for Starfleet Command to get off their butts and tell them about it? In all likelihood the other Starfleet ship was closer to the Fortunate, but if it recieved the distress call first, then relayed it back to Earth, then got *Earth* to call Enterprise. What was Hoshi up to that week?<p>Mark <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> <br /><small>Member # 37</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,21,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:52 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It's possible that the distress signal was a direction beam, going directly to it's base at Earth, instead of going in all directions. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,21,22,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:13 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Interestingly, this ep marks John Eaves's first appearance in the credits, as the "production illustrator" for the show in question. It's also the debut of a new CGI FX house, "<a href="http://www.strange-engine.com">Strange Engine</a>," who apparently are another successor company to Digital Muse a la Eden FX. It's head honchos did Emmy work for Voyager and were the masterminds behind cult classic <a href=http://www.405themovie.com>405</a>. Learn something new every day.<p>[ November 21, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]</p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,10,22,21,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:51 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I like the idea of the letter classes - the producers have covered the arses here reguards to the NX thing... and at the same time they have yes... given us CONTINUITY PORN (I love that phrase <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> )<p>The DY, the NX, the J wasn't there another shuttle type??<p>As for the DY-500-A, B etc. why not just upgraded versions of the essential DY-500 class... sorta like the Miranda versions... roll bar, no roll bar etc. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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