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Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Belief, nuthin'. It *is* too big for the top of the model, and totally doesn't take into account the airlock or ready room sets off to the sides.

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What airlock?
 

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Posted by Woodside Kid (Member # 699) on :
 
Supposedly, when Picard, Worf, and Hawk went for their little stroll to the deflector dish, they left out of an airlock at the aft end of the bridge module. At least, they did in the novelization IIRC.
 

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
Deck 1 doesn't have any airlocks - they're on deck 3. Otherwise Mark's right - I measured the top view schem from the Fact Files and deck 1 isn't wide enough for what's required. It might just be an inaccuracy w/ the schem though. Don't suppose anyone has the studio miniature handy?
 

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Deck 1 doesn't have any Ready Rooms, either. Or at least there's no room for them, and no vertical slit windows to match the interior design.

AFAIK, the Ready Room is built integrally to the bridge set, and indeed "First Contact" shows that you can see the bridge through the door of the Ready Room. And rumors say that the opposite door is indeed labeled "airlock". However, the airlock set is not integrated to the bridge set, nor does "First Contact" indicate that the heroes would enter the airlock through this door. And frankly, I have trouble believing that *any* of the doors on the set would be labeled at all (except perhaps in the undecipherable barcode used on Voyager).

As usual, the easiest way to fit a too large bridge set to a too small exterior is to say that the bridge is submerged more deeply into the ship than it first appears. This still won't solve the Ready Room window problem, but it will help a bit at least.

Timo Saloniemi
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
If it helps, the cutaway poster I have shows that there is indeed a bridge airlock on the forward, port side. One woudl assume that's it's some kind of a hatch. The poster isn't at all clear as to what it looks like. It's just this little greeble labeled "#58: Bridge Airlock".
 

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
 
Speaking of bridges not fitting, the Ent-B by far has the worst case of that. By memory the diameter of the dome is only about 6m. The way it's shaped doesn't make sense for a submerged bridge either - it looks like the Ent-A deck 1 but scaled too much smaller. IMO the Ent-E problem is nothing in comparison.
 

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
I popped in the Captain's chair CD... The forward port door has writing on it, but it's tough to make it out. The first word is "Emergency", but the second is pretty well obscured.

Mark
 

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
Thanks a lot - now I have more to worry about!
Seriously -- 38'? I'm going to do a rendition in the same scale/application that I am doing the Intrepid-class - and I'll see how it looks. But that does sound a little small...

Any guesses as to why I wanted this?
 

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Well, given your history with the medium, I'd guess it's blueprints of a certain ship we all know and have a love/hate thing with.

Mark
 

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
http://www.gilsostartrekschematics.co.uk/bridgeplans/entebridge.jpg

It doesn't have an exact measurement, but you can probably cross-reference that with the one from the Captain's Chair and get some kind of width.

Besides, the TNG movie sets had to be in different sound stages than the TNG TV series -- because the TV stages were taken over by "Voyager."
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Doesn't Picard enter the Bridge from the port side in First Contact when they recieve the transmission from the fleet?
 

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Nope.

Mark
 

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
True enough, Mark.

Going well btw.

Oops. I just did a size comparison.

Voyager's bridge is easily proven to be 49 feet across at the widest point (door of Janeway's Ready Room to door of Conference Room). When one places the set diagram (which includes all three rooms) over the upper schematic of the ship (which shows the 'forecastle' of the ship holding all 3 rooms - and has reference windows), 49 feet is unavoidable.

Using size comparison to the E-e bridge, I get a width at widest point (port-side console to starboard-side console) of 52 feet.

And I have to make it fit.

We're talking split-level like a Hollywood mansion.
 

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Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
 
Couldn't the labeling on the door be the same as on the Ent-D: "Emergency TURBO" ?
 

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