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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>koy'peled Oy'tio</b> <br /><small>Member # 796</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,16,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:54 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yet another trek break-through using trek inspired methods to help a patient.<br /><br />Star Trek technology inspires new ways to screen patient’s body<br /><br />"If I can see it, I can fix it", this dry one-liner motivates the continuous search for optimized and more refined visualization methods in health care. Scanning the whole body and its cells synchronously constitutes the major challenge in interactive medical image visualization while non-invasive real time diagnosis and treatment is the future, predicted Mayo Clinic expert Dr. Richard Robb in an invited talk at IMIVA, a MICCAI 2001 satellite workshop. Interactive patient visualization aims at discovering and establishing the exact link between anatomic structure and biologic function. Dr. Robb introduced the audience of medical imaging specialists to the fascinating world of "Bones McCoy", his favorite Star Trek character. <br />Dr. Robb defined interactive imaging as a nearly instantaneous response of the image modality system to any user stimulus, requiring a rate of at least 10 to 20 frames per second. Ideally, the visualization is multi-modal, combining images in a synergistic way through spatio-temporal fusion. This is achieved by registering the images with sophisticated mathematical algorithms. The actual visualization consists of rendering and displaying multi-dimensional objects, preferably in 3D, but also involves the whole image pre-processing procedure. In turn, image analysis comes down to both measurement and characterization of the visual material.<br />Endoscopic examinations within the body change our place in the universe, as Dr. Robb explained. When shifting from the macro to the micro levels of scale, we can visualize organs, tissues, cells, and organelles, to finally enter the world of the neuron and study it. This requires a need for volume imaging in 3D at the least. The clinician can recur to a broad range of imaging modalities, such as Computed Tomography (CT), Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), and micro CT, spiral CT for the chest, ultrasound, Positron Emitter Tomography (PET), Single Photon Emission Computed Tomography (SPECT), confocal imaging, and microscopy. Since 1975, high temporal resolution imaging is being used as the first multi-source, multi-detector, and real time 3D imaging system to produce simultaneous image volume slices.<br />Computer technology thus has become the enabler of modern biomedical imaging. The GHz PC, mass memory, and the Internet - "for better or worse, for it allows you to send e-mail and transmit large images" - have provided us with big opportunities. Richard Robb also briefly referred to the proprietary ANALYZE tool, a comprehensive visualization and analysis software to surmount the insurmountable, which was developed at Mayo Clinic. Several procedures in visualization and analysis are commonly used and can be made interactive. Dr. Robb mentioned fast 3D registration in Nuclear Medical Imaging (NMI); images that are segmented and classified in just a few seconds on a simple PC; surface and volume rendering where the volume images are being dissected interactively; and anatomy modeling and tissue mapping.<br />The big deal is to reach beyond anatomy and to add function to structure. Dr. Robb showed how this is done for instance in elastic deformation where the lung epithelial cell is "stretched" to watch the cell breath. Deformation is performed through texture mapping. Advanced in-vivo 5D visualization even allows to display structure and function in real time. Virtual Reality forms a further possibility to find ourselves in a 3D world without having to imagine it, as Dr. Robb described. We suspend our disbelief to become fully immersed and generate a taxonomy with generations of virtual anatomy and functions that ranges from geometry to biochemistry. Virtual Reality is now frequently used to rehearse complex surgery on a patient and train anaesthesiologic procedures by means of simulation.<br />Another upcoming technology is virtual endoscopy, a new method of diagnosis that processes 3D image data sets to deliver simulated visualizations of patient specific organs similar or equivalent to those produced by standard endoscopic procedures. Concrete examples are virtual gastroscopy and virtual colonoscopy. Which brought Dr. Robb to the point of giving a number of current applications in visualization to the audience, such as craniofacial surgery planning; neuro-surgery planning in which 3D MRI and SPECT images are subtracted and fused to localise brain regions causing epileptic seizures in paediatric patients; intra-operative image-guided neuro-surgery consisting in on-line multi-planar display of MR images with segmented 3D tumours and blood vessels; and image-guided diagnosis of coronary artery disease using intra-vascular ultrasound.<br />Stenting or on-line image-guided treatment of coronary artery disease is not yet done routinely but limited to experiments only. Other procedures based on 3D visualization are image-guided cardiac ablation or E.P.-mapping; and interactive visualization of the prostate in which a real time trans-urethral ultrasound image is registered to a patient-specific 3D model. Until recently, implanting seeds with CT in prostate brachytherapy still happened blind but now it can be visualised. Very spectacular was the pre-operative planning for the separation of conjoined twins, since a pre-calculation was necessary for the amount of skin that had to grow again.<br />In order to make interactive medical image visualization acceptable for daily clinical routine, some current needs and issues still have to be addressed by research. Dr. Robb only named a few including an increased 4D resolution in space and time; automatic and accurate anatomic segmentation; fast and robust multi-dimensional registration; faithful tissue and function classification; and realistic real time volume rendering. The guidelines for clinical assessment have to be based on physician requirements and expectations. Solutions need to be clinically relevant, reliable, accurate and precise, according to Dr. Robb, who stressed that the tools should improve outcome and patient survival, meaning a reduction of both morbidity and cost.<br />First choice are those imaging systems with a modular concept and an easy-to-use interface. Designers have a task to focus on the user right from the start via continuous user testing. This involves they have to do their homework properly by performing an application analysis and a usability evaluation. Dr. Robb also strongly pleaded for an integrated design and iterative prototype design cycles. Standards are everywhere, so in visualization as well. A sensitive issue though since we face an inflation of standards. Maybe it would not be all too crazy to create a standard for standards, as Richard Robb put it, next to a standard for common sense, of course. We definitely need to agree on standards for 3D image acquisition, image storage and transfer, segmentation and registration, analysis and interpretation, visualization parameters, and validation of algorithms.<br />To make diagnosis and treatment based on advanced 3D medical visualization come true as we have seen it happen in Star Trek, Dr. Robb thought it appropriate to list a few objective as well as subjective considerations for evaluation of new technologies in clinical applications. The objective factors to be taken into account are sensitivity of resolution and texture; object specificity; inclusion of artifacts; local relationships between objects; reproducibility; time; cost; and outcome. Physician and patient acceptance; trust in computer versus human performance; insurance by third party payers; referential research studies; and the weighting of the relative value added by unique features are the subjective categories in the validation process.<br />Richard Robb ended his talk by indicating that the need for support and training should not be omitted. Technical support for visualization tools is perfectly deliverable via the Web through the offering of frequent patches and upgrades. If you want to have a dedicated, technically knowledgeable clinical staff, give them the opportunity to keep abreast with the latest developments via tutorials, regular context-sensitive help, and both on- and off-site training sessions. Of course, this will bring on substantial costs but Dr. Robb used another one-liner to ward off this critical remark: "If you think education is expensive, consider the cost of ignorance." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Malnurtured Snayer</b> <br /><small>Member # 411</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,16,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:58 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Did you write that article yourself? It's customary to cite a source when you post someone else's work, otherwise it's plagirism. <br /><br />And don't we already have another tech thread you posted? This couldn't go there? <br /><br />Thanks for not posting any pics. <br /><br />Sorry if you hate my guts. I'm trying to be like Lee. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>YrdMehc</b> <br /><small>Member # 417</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,17,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:09 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes, quite the story....<br /><br />NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not 2 of them....... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mark Nguyen</b> <br /><small>Member # 469</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,17,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:25 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I agree with Snay in that you should really post the source you're getting these at, and if online to link to it. Otherwise, this really has no more legitimacy than a fanfic. <br /><br />And if you're going to link to it, save yourself the trouble and don't bother reposting the text! <br /><br />Mark <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fedaykin Supastar</b> <br /><small>Member # 704</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,20,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:14 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> u know there's so much text i can't even read it <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>PsyLiam</b> <br /><small>Member # 73</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,20,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:32 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> So do you go blind in a library then, or what? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dat</b> <br /><small>Member # 302</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,21,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:06 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I didn't even bother to read it and I never will. I din't know what was said nor do I care to know. Koy, listen to other people here or else no one is going to bother to care about what you have to say or plagirize (sp?). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MrNeutron</b> <br /><small>Member # 524</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,21,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:36 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Since koy'peled Oy'tio wasn't courteous enough to name the source, nor provide a link to it (nor to just link to it), or even credit the author, I'll do it for him.<br /><br />The article is titled "<b>Star Trek technology inspires new ways to screen patient body</b>", and is credited to Leslie Versweyveld.<br /><br />And <a href="http://www.hoise.com/vmw/01/articles/vmw/LV-VM-11-01-14.html" target="_blank">this is from where he copied it</a>.<br /><br />--M <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Siegfried</b> <br /><small>Member # 29</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,22,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:39 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> koy'peled Oy'tio, from now on it would be a good idea to link back to the original article instead of copying and pasting the whole shebang. The Free Republic website was <a href="http://www.techlawjournal.com/courts/freerep/Default.htm" target="_blank">hauled into court</a> by various news organizations because members of that forum were doing as you did here. The case is still pending.<br /><br />In general, if you want to share something with us it's a good idea to just link to it and give a summary of what it says in your own words. If you're in the mood, get the ball rolling on a conversation by explaining your thoughts and opinions on the matter. Quote parts of the article to enhance your argument or use a tantilizing bit of it hook us, but don't copy and paste the whole thing.<br /> <br /> <small>[ April 30, 2002, 22:47: Message edited by: Siegfried ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dat</b> <br /><small>Member # 302</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,23,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:13 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> And if you don't stop, Charles just might haul your ass out for everyone to kick you out of here and have you permanently banned. And if you try to come back under a different name or whatever, he'll make sure you din't even try to think about these forums or us again. He's that bad to people who don't learn. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>CaptainMike</b> <br /><small>Member # 709</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,23,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:15 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> change your ways, korn'hol Ol'io <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge</b> <br /><small>Member # 144</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,3,30,23,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 30, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:15 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Dangerous Charlie...hmm sounds like a new nickname. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,1,5,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 01, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:22 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Charlie don't SURF, man!!<br /><br />On a related note, did I mention that I failed biology when I was 15? I was far more interested in staring at Melissa Mikolaycik's tasty tittage than listening to Emil Gavenas drone on about the wonders of frog bladders. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>koy'peled Oy'tio</b> <br /><small>Member # 796</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,1,8,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 01, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:32 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> to say the least im speachless <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>koy'peled Oy'tio</b> <br /><small>Member # 796</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,1,8,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 01, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:40 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> i found something to say <br /> vvvvvvv<br /> vvvvv<br /> vvv<br /> v<br /> <br /> <small>[ May 01, 2002, 08:41: Message edited by: koy'peled Oy'tio ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Matrix</b> <br /><small>Member # 376</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,1,8,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 01, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:44 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I give up... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mark Nguyen</b> <br /><small>Member # 469</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,1,8,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 01, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:45 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> No offense, Boyold'nuff To'shavo, but aside from the copy-paste incidents, what you have to say lately rarely exceeds ten words or an attack on someone else. If a writer such as yourself is capable of intelligent thought and discussion, I suggest you show it.<br /><br />Mark<br /> <br /> <small>[ May 01, 2002, 08:50: Message edited by: Mark Nguyen ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>EdipisReks</b> <br /><small>Member # 510</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,1,13,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 01, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:37 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> isn't it "Boyold'nuff To'molesto"? regardless, a link would have been nice. i would comment on what was copy and pasted, but there is no way in hell i am going to read all of that.<br /><br />edited becuase i left out a quotation mark.<br /><br />--jacob<br /> <br /> <small>[ May 01, 2002, 13:37: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim Pim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,3,3,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 03, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:42 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Oh good, any other reason and we would've strung you up by the balls. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>EdipisReks</b> <br /><small>Member # 510</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,4,22,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 04, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:14 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> good thing it wasn't a period then, *wipes brow*, because i almost forgot one.<br /><br />--jacob <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>U//Magnus</b> <br /><small>Member # 239</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,5,0,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 05, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:37 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Or capital letters, for that matter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ May 05, 2002, 01:00: Message edited by: U//Magnus ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>EdipisReks</b> <br /><small>Member # 510</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,5,7,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 05, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:33 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> well, i just don't discriminate against words is all. why should any word get the special treatment just because of it's location in a sentence? i am an equal opportunity word user.<br /><br />--jacob <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fedaykin Supastar</b> <br /><small>Member # 704</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,5,7,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 05, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:46 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Wasnt Major Barcalounger supposed to be writing a book as well??? hmmm<br /><br />buzz <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>CaptainMike</b> <br /><small>Member # 709</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,5,21,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 05, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:42 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> MB was a full-fledged writer according to his profile. And people in his office stole things from him, and accused him of things. His boss didn't understand his problems, and verbally abused him. Man I miss that made-up dude...<br /><br />This is getting DARKSTARish <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fedaykin Supastar</b> <br /><small>Member # 704</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,4,6,3,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:25 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I remember him - is he the one that got angry and left, then came back just so he could get angry and leave again....heh ?<br /><br />Buzz <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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