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Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
 
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Everyone who read the script knows it, everyone else should know it: There'll be a chase-sequence in X, featuring a stolen romulan shuttle driven by Picard and Data - through the Scimitar. I'm exited how they'll do it, and this seems to be the first shot of what appears to be the romulan shuttlecraft. Doesn't look very romulan, but nontheless the first new ship we get to see.
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
Spiolers! OH NOS!
 
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
 
Shti!
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
ah ah!
 
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
 
Bah, it doesn't look very Romulan!
 
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
It looks like the fucking Batmobile!
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
Which itself is quite different than the Normal Batmobile.
 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Looks just like the Scoutship from Insurrection...
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
From the 1/4 of 1/2 of 1/8 that has been shown to us, I suppose it does.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Why should we know this if we don't want to, again?
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
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Possible sketches of the Jeep?

[ June 22, 2002, 03:47: Message edited by: Harry ]
 
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
 
OK, and this seems to be...

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...the second 'ship' we get to see. That Starfleet jeep looks better than I thought, but not that Starfleetish. What do you think?
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Death Race 2000.
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
Hmm. What's the need for wheels, I wonder?
 
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
Where did the warp nacelles go?
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Hannibal Lecter took 'em, along with the skin to the shuttlecraft.

[Mark tries in vain to imitate Lecter's slurping-hissing thing]

Anyway, I think it looks spiffy, though I question the actual need of it. What's wrong with using a shuttle for low-level searching? Or a hover-anything, for that matter? Perhaps antigrav technology can't work on this planet because of some wierd property of its isodiametricpseudomagnetic whatsit?

Mark
 
Posted by Ultimate Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
It appears to be a reject from MASK.
 
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
 
No one likes shuttles anymore.
 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Viewing the trailer, the Argo is both the name of the Jeep and the Shuttlecraft. The shuttle design is...neat. It has nacelles built directly into the bulk of the ship, with 4 little winglets that come out (big ones sloping downward on the bottom and little ones sloping upward on the top. They appear to compactly fit into the side of the shuttlecraft, kid of like how modern naval aircraft have foldable wings for use on aircraft carriers to save space.
 
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
 
Looks like the planet doesn't not support repulsors. Winged shuttle, and dune buggy's...

Still, they look AWESOME!
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Wings could presumably still be vaguely useful for maneuvering even on a craft with antigrav.
 
Posted by Siwiak (Member # 842) on :
 
I dunno... I bet my Saturn could beat the little dune buggy, what with my plastic sides and all making me light-weight. We'll have to wait for close-ups to see if its equipped with a CD-player, or just an AM radio.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
So, has anyone nicknamed this new shuttle a hopper yet? 'Cause, you know, it seems vaguely like something that might be called that. I guess.
 
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
 
Personally, I find the design of the "Jeep" very bad. It's too contemporary and sticking Starfleet like plating on it doesn't cut it. [Roll Eyes]

Also, if the script I read was accurate, I really dislike the way it's used.

As to the shuttle, I wish one of these designers would do some research into actual aerodynamics instead of sticking fins and wings on things. And, just once, I'd like to see a wing with a wing's cross-section and not just a flat plywood panel. I can't really tell with this shuttle, but past experience doesn't give me much hope that this would be the case.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I always figured a hopper would be good for transporting more then three people...
 
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
 
Well, I may get used to the shuttle, but why did they make it Batmobile-black instead of green? Only because it looks more fashionable, I suppose.

My god, that jeep is awful! Looks like it was ripped off from Mad Max or something like that. In addition, if it's really Federation, we have another inconsistency, considering that in the 23rd and 24th century no one seems to be familiar with cars or anything with wheels any longer (Harry didn't even recognize a car when he was standing in front of one). If you can have a hovercar (for 300 years) and all the nifty antigrav technology (for 200 years), why still build something with wheels?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Well, yeah. I was just talking randomly, it seems.

At the same time, we've heard the term "hopper" attached to a couple of really different-sounding vehicles. A civilian space-coupe and a military transport, among others, if I recall correctly. Perhaps it's 24th century slang for any dedicated surface-to-orbit vehicle? (The Space Shuttle would be a hopper, Apollo would not, even though both can go from the ground to orbit and back (albeit in rather different ways)). Or perhaps hoppers are more like proposed hypersonic ramjet flights from New York to Tokyo, with brief-exoatmospheric excursions along the top of their flights. In other words, vehicles primarily devoted to getting things from planet-point A to planet-point B, with escape velocity capabilities (since, really, what can't reach escape velocity in Star Trek, considering how compact some of those engines are) but not dedicated to a more general purpose mission profile like your average John Q. Shuttlecraft.

I suspect I've gotten a little far afield with this. Anyway, in my definition a hopper wouldn't have warp drive, which this shuttle appears to have. Or do my eyes decieve me?
 


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