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Gerard Gillan
Member # 684
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Evening all, i thought I would just post this little bit of information about the Norway Class blueprint (C.G.I.) or what ever people like to call it. I have been able to get a 5 view blueprint of the USS Budapest from First Contact. As far as I know but I may be wrong until now, no real 5 exterior views have been available until now.
I hope it helps people who have been looking for some views on this ship. Enjoy
Gerard - Gilso Norway blueprint/Schematic
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The Captain Who Will Not Be Named
Member # 709
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No way!
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MinutiaeMan
Member # 444
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Wow... there's nothing very much different from the basic structures that a few smaller-res fan models have done, but it's still nice to have a set of quasi-official five-view schematics.
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Dukhat
Member # 341
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Thanks, Gerard.
This ship has both my votes for "The starship which the least amount of thought went into," and "worst design ever," with the runner-up being the NX-01. BTW, doesn't the underside resemble the Defiant in the front?...
So it's true? No more Fact Files? Why?
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Dr. Phlox
Member # 878
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After 304 issues, it was the end. We never got to see diagrams of the other Wolf 359 ships. Or the alien of the week Enterprise ships. *sigh*
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The Captain Who Will Not Be Named
Member # 709
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hmph.. im sure that ST: The Mag will still subject us to that stuff.
looks like they cut and pasted their drawing file from the Defiant for the detail.. since the CGI was assumed to be irreparably lost, should we assume that this is an interpolation? or is it possible they drew this from the actual pre-damage CGI?
BTW, the bottom looks a lot like the 'unidentified wreckage' from First Contact. Any1 got a pic of that to compare?
[edit] oh maybe not, i just looked at it an that one seems to have escape pods. oh well
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Mark Nguyen
Member # 469
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Actually, the bottom looks more like it's missing a secondary hull - or auxilliary pod.
Mark
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Dr. Phlox
Member # 878
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There you go.
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Vogon Poet
Member # 393
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Amazing. How well I remember, way back in early '97 or thereabouts, refusing to have anything to do with the Fact Files because a) they were way to fanboyish (not that I knew the term then, this was even pre-Utopia Planita v1), and b) the mag would only last a few issues before vanishing forever. So I was half-right at least. 8)
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Reverend
Member # 335
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quote: Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Actually, the bottom looks more like it's missing a secondary hull - or auxilliary pod.
Mark
Perhaps it's some kind of tug, like the 24th century equivalent to the Ptolemy-Class.
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Aban Rune
Member # 226
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From what I remember, that piece of wreckage was a miniature that was constructed specifically to be a bit of debris. It didn't come from any specific ship or class. However, it does appear to be the front, center piece of a saucer section.
I'm going to be stoned for this one... but I've always dug the Norway. I liked all the FC ships. This 5-view just makes me like it more. It looks sweet...
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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What is this page!?! I tried the link but the page didn't exist! Sorry, is this an official Norway thing?
I'm still waiting on someone here who has contact with Drexler to ask him what his source was for the Norway schematic in the Encyclopaedia. He might have been the last person to see any trace of the Norway (and might still have it on his computer - remember Mojo said that ILM don't have it anymore!!)
Andrew
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Dr. Phlox
Member # 878
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quote: Originally posted by AndrewR: What is this page!?! I tried the link but the page didn't exist! Sorry, is this an official Norway thing?
It's a scan(good job on making it bigger, Gerard ) of 5-view blueprints of the Norway class from this week's Star Trek Fact Files. So, I suppose that makes it official.
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Dax
Member # 191
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There's a heck of a lot of Defiant panelling and features on the Norway. I wonder if it'd be possible/practical to extrapolate a size for the Norway by scaling the Defiant-alike features.
And thanks for the schematics, Gerard.
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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PLEASE can someone put it up here (using Flare upload) I soooooo wanna see!!)
OK, It's finally connected and I'm currently downloading it.
TWO words of warning as to the 'authenticity' of this thing.
1. The Fact Files track record of schematics for obscure classes, Niagra etc.
2. The fact that NO ONE has seen this model since it was made for First Contact in 1996. Mojo said that ILM didn't have it anymore. The ONLY person I suspect that MAY have a copy of it is Doug Drexler as he needed it to create the schematic featured in the 2nd Edition encyclopaedia. And you would assume that Alex Jager still has his own work on file.
So how did the Fact Files people get this information?
Oh, it's sorta sad that that is the last fact files... but well - I'm glad I only bought like 5 of them... 300+ at like 7 bucks each... over 2000 bucks for a lot of 'obvious stuff' 100 schematics most with labelling saying "nacelle".
Andrew
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Gerard Gillan
Member # 684
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AndrewR check your email account I have sent you the Norway blueprint.
Gerard - Gilso
You should stop cracking up now..... :-)
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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Heh, what timing!
Check my last post - for an update and some comments.
THANKS though!!
Just one thing, what is with the grid lines? Where they in the fact files? Can we use this as some sort of sizing?
Andrew
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Herr Kapitan Mike
Member # 709
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gilso adds the gridlines to all his schematics as part of his site design (and to make it harder to clip the images
you can use them for sizing if you want.. but it wont mean anything
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Vogon Poet
Member # 393
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Looks like this diagram came from the same place all the other FC ship diags did - either re-done from the ones in the Encyclopaedia (like I myself did for UP3), or from at least a common source with it.
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J
Member # 608
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Back to the image... it's not a blueprint and for that it gets a low grade, it's a color schematic.
Beyond that it looks good, I do have a gripe with the deflector dish, it just doesn't look right too me.
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Dr. Phlox
Member # 878
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The whole ventral view bothers me. It makes it look like sections are hanging down, but the side, back and front views all show that the bottom is totally flat. That makes the bottom view seem less official and more made up on the spot.
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Reverend
Member # 335
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If you'll recall the Steamrunner's underside was much the same, only that had Galaxy-class features instead of Defiant-class. Remember that these were only meant to be used as background ships and were never meant to hold up to close scrutiny.
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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The Freedom and the Niagra classes were also only background ships - but they didn't do too badly in the scrutiny stakes.
Is there a Steamrunner and Sabre Class colour schematic like the Norway available!?!
Does anyone reckon that this might have been a ship that was a prototype for surfacee landing by starfleet?
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TheF0rce
Member # 533
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I always thought it had a deflector there in the front like the Intrepid. Oh well.
The bottom doesn't seem to be flat, and the blue panels makes you envision a very diff. top paneling scheme altogether.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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I hapen to like the Norway (it's a hell of alot better than some of the Wolf 359 ships!). When making my 2500th scale model of the Norway, I added two phaser strips and a partially recessed Quantum Torpedo launcher to the ventral side...as well as some lifeboats! I also made the Impulse Engine between the outrigger pylons instead of two seperate engines at the aft sides (like my friend from Nova Hobbies did). From the schematic, I really can't tell where the Impulse engine(s) are! Ideas?
....oh, and I think that screenshot of debris is supposed to be the remains of the Zandura design.
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Dukhat
Member # 341
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quote: it's a hell of alot better than some of the Wolf 359 ships!
No, it's not. Detail went into those ships. No detail went into this one.
quote: ....oh, and I think that screenshot of debris is supposed to be the remains of the Zandura design.
No, it's not. John Eaves drew a four-nacelled ship design called the U.S.S. Zandura, along with other designs, which were never made into CGI models. Although the piece of debris doesn't seem to match any known ship designs, it also doesn't match the Zandura drawing. Somebody just heard the name "Zandura" and assumed that the debris came from that ship.
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