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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Starship Millennium</b> <br /><small>Member # 822</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,20,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:28 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Enjoy... as usual, take them if you'd like, but woe upon those who don't give me credit. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> Thanks to <a href="http://www.trekmania.net" target="_blank">The Red Admiral</a> for giving me ideas about where to look.<br /><br />Enterprise enters the depot, Princeton visible.<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor1.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor1.jpg</a> <br /><br />Further into the field... some Wolf 359 ships and study models. Of interesting note is the station I labeled "Spacedock prototype?" in the analysis image... it looks a lot like the squatter study model.<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2.jpg</a> <br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2-a.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2-a.jpg</a> <br /><br />Enterprise in the depot...<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor3.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor3.jpg</a> <br /><br />...and passing overhead, with more analysis. That ship looks a lot like the Batris. Haven't been able to pick anything distinct out of the debris, though.<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor4.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor4.jpg</a> <br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor4-a.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor4-a.jpg</a> <br /><br />Some Reliants, Excelsior study, and the Batris again.<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor5.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor5.jpg</a> <br /><br />The ship at the upper left corner looks a little like the rear of the Batris, yet somewhat different... any guesses?<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor6.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor6.jpg</a> <br /><br />An Excelsior study (maybe?), a Talarian cruiser clipped of its wings, and the <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/waverider.jpg" target="_blank">soliton waverider</a>.<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor7.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor7.jpg</a> <br /><br />The same, with a different perspective over Qualor II.<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor8.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor8.jpg</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,20,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:46 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Are these DVD caps?<br /><br />----<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Further into the field... some Wolf 359 ships and study models. Of interesting note is the station I labeled "Spacedock prototype?" in the analysis image... it looks a lot like the squatter study model.<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2.jpg</a> <br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2-a.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor2-a.jpg</a> <br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well - the question mark - to me doesn't look like that Talarian ship anymore - the perpendicular part was just a star. It looks like a saucer side on. Wasn't there a funny looking 'stepped' saucer seen in the BOBW scenes?<br /><br />Or it could be that relatively smooth Talerian Plague ship/rehash as many other ships including a Vidiian ship in "Parallax".<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The ship at the upper left corner looks a little like the rear of the Batris, yet somewhat different... any guesses?<br /> <a href="http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor6.jpg" target="_blank">http://home.att.net/~starships/centaur/qualor6.jpg</a> <br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Batris upside down?? (another one - that is). I mean they've used two Mirandas together.<br /><br />And the last two links. First link - top left corner. It looks like another angle to the Excelsior Prototype with the four oberth-esque nacelles. I thought it might be the same as the prototype in the final link. But that is at a different position and seems to have different nacelles? So that is that OTHER Excelsior study with no secondary hull and just two upper nacelles.<br /><br />Andrew<br /><br />P.S. In the first link - that could be a Romulan battlecruiser.<br /><br />Andrew <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Starship Millennium</b> <br /><small>Member # 822</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,20,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:56 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yup, they're DVD caps.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by AndrewR:<br />Or it could be that relatively smooth Talerian Plague ship/rehash as many other ships including a Vidiian ship in "Parallax".</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Interesting... I do see a definite resemblance to the plague ship. And it did turn up, without the dome, as Etana Jol's Ktarian vessel in "The Game," produced immediately before "Unification," so that's a definite possibility.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Batris upside down?? (another one - that is). I mean they've used two Mirandas together.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, it has to be the Batris. I've taken a look at some other pics of it, and those four "thrusters" are pretty distinctive. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,21,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:01 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I just added some other comments to my original post.<br /><br />"I guess I'll die another day" - Madonna <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Starship Millennium</b> <br /><small>Member # 822</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,21,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:06 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by AndrewR:<br />P.S. In the first link - that could be a Romulan battlecruiser.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Could be... but the bridge module and striping looks more like a K't'inga than a D7. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Starship Millennium</b> <br /><small>Member # 822</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,22,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:19 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Now that I'm looking at it, that straight piece of debris that looks like the Talarian ship appeared at Wolf 359, as did that weird three nacelle-ish ship. I think the latter was identified by The Red Admiral as the Chekov... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mark Nguyen</b> <br /><small>Member # 469</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,23,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Off-topic, but those of you getting the TNG S5 collection, you GOTTA see the special Roddenberry tribute by Patrick "Music Man" Stewart!<br /><br />Mark <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,23,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Starship Millennium:<br /><strong> I think the latter was identified by The Red Admiral as the Chekov... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, for the honour of Greyskull... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,6,23,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 06, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:25 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Wow, those are pretty.<br /><br />DS9 DVD captures will be the greatest thing ever. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dukhat</b> <br /><small>Member # 341</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,7,9,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:49 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Nice 'caps.<br /><br />The object labeled "Spacedock Prototype" can be seen in the Art of Star Trek book: <br /><br /><a href="http://www.stguardian.to/starbase/spacedockmodel.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.stguardian.to/starbase/spacedockmodel.jpg</a><br /><br />Although we have a better-detailed pic of the mysterious lone saucer, it's unfortunately still not enough to tell where it came from. However, I think it's safe to say that it does not come from any of the four Excelsior study models. <br /><br />I'm much more interested in knowing what those objects are in the extreme background, now that we can see them a bit better. I do know that there were a couple Ent-D's that didn't come out of the mold right. But some of that other stuff doesn't look like Star Trek-related items at all.<br /> <br /> <small>[ November 07, 2002, 10:19: Message edited by: Dukhat ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Red Admiral</b> <br /><small>Member # 602</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,7,12,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:11 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Excellent work SM! Thanks man, I'd be very grateful to use these to update the Qualor II analysis page (<a href="http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/screencap_analyses.htm" target="_blank">http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/screencap_analyses.htm</a>)<br /><br />The three nacelled ship you outline is definitely a reappearance of the Springfield Class Chekov, first positively identified in the Wolf 359 analysis.<br /><br />As Dukhat said, there does now seem to be a number of other very interesting objects in the far background, not discernable before. I believe I've identified some new objects already. I'll update the page soon...<br /><br />cheers. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Starship Millennium</b> <br /><small>Member # 822</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,7,15,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:01 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:<br />Off-topic, but those of you getting the TNG S5 collection, you GOTTA see the special Roddenberry tribute by Patrick "Music Man" Stewart!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed... that alone was almost worth the price of the DVDs... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Red Admiral</b> <br /><small>Member # 602</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,7,15,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:16 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Page updated. Version 3.01. Thanks ST.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/screencap_analyses.htm" target="_blank">http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/screencap_analyses.htm</a><br /><br />There's a few new things that have come to light now, such as the possible identification of other Galaxy Classes, etc.<br /><br />As with the other screencap anaylsis pages, findings are open to corrections and contributions... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Mighty Monkey of Mim</b> <br /><small>Member # 646</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,7,16,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 07, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:38 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Red Admiral:<br /><strong> Page updated. Version 3.01. Thanks ST.<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/screencap_analyses.htm" target="_blank">http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/screencap_analyses.htm</a> <br /><br />There's a few new things that have come to light now, such as the possible identification of other Galaxy Classes, etc.<br /><br />As with the other screencap anaylsis pages, findings are open to corrections and contributions... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">FOR THE LAST TIME...it's a K't'inga, not a D7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />Lovely analysis nonetheless, though, Red. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />-<b>MMoM</b> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Red Admiral</b> <br /><small>Member # 602</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2002,10,8,11,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 08, 2002</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:25 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Darn, yeh it is a K'Tinga, forgot to update that passage.... thanks <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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