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Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
 
hi i know some people have contact addresses for people like rick sternbach, mike okuda and so on but i was wondering if you could either post their e mail addresses or links to their websites. thanks in advance.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
This sounds like an extraordinarily bad idea...
 
Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
 
Why? if you must know i wanted to contact them because there is some questions i want to ask them.
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
You have to be joking...right?! There is no way.

Only under special circumstances would they be contacted. The few fans that have their details would be cut off immediately, and any chance of future contact compromised, if their contact addresses were posted on public boards for fanboys to bombard them with inane question.
 
Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
 
Why the fuck is everyone so fucking difficult and up their own arse here?
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
I think it is because some here do have a relationship, with the people you want to contact, which can give them and sometimes us some insight into what is going on. If they were to just post their addresses then this insight would be lost to all of us. Besides it is just plain rude to post someones address without their permission.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
try to get in touch with them through a message board or newsgroup theyve been known to post on. in the past, when the email addresses of people involved with the show become public, they get inundated with mail from stupid fans and then cease answering emails.

we're just acting like we always do. by majority rules, you're the one who's being difficult.
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Perhaps it would be better, Anyeurism, if you post your questions here first. As a new guy, many of them will very likely have been answered here already, or known by someone who has. That's what the forums are here for in the first place.

Having asked questions to several production people before, I know for a fact that they hate stuff like a) people asking for stuff that they've already written in their books; b) asking for writer-created tech questions that they really don't know the answers to; or c) people asking to include their ideas or designs in a story/explanation in their work. Especially with that last one, since it practically insults their own creativity, which is extremely important to their profession.

Mark
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
we are, after all, pretty pretty people
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Anyeurism: For all the reasons aforelisted, I say "That's why." I wasn't necessarily saying that it was bad to give that info to you , I was saying it would be bad to simply post that info in a forum for lord knows who to get ahold of and completly cheese these people off.
 
Posted by Boris (Member # 713) on :
 
Nobody here has the exclusive right to talk to a production person unless that person decides so, and they normally don't. I encourage everyone to e-mail whomever they want to.

However, in the sheer interest of efficiency and respect, always search the web first. I've talked to about a dozen production people without ever having to ask another person for an e-mail address. Everything I needed I found with Google or in online forums -- that's how easy it is.

Not only will you easily find addresses of people you're looking for (they're all over the place), but you'll also have a chance to see the kind of questions they responded to already, and might be able to refine yours or ask a new one.

Right now, Rick Sternbach hangs out at TrekBBS and sometimes at rec.arts.startrek.tech. He obviously isn't stopping anyone from e-mailing him through his website either. If you're not willing to research, post a message on one of these fora and see if it gets answered. However, it really helps to search the web.

Boris
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Boris, you are absolutely correct. People like Rick Sternbach, who don't mind receiving e-mail from fans, are perfectly happy to have their e-mail addresses listed on their websites, etc. You can find someone's website fairly easily by search engine or simply by looking at their profiles on message boards and the like. If you look, you can find a whole lot of public addresses that you need not have any guilt about making queries to.

Over at the TrekBBS, (http://www.trekbbs.com) you'll find a number of individuals who post regularly, including Mr. Sternbach, Geoffrey Mandel, and Shane Johnson.

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
I've written to Rick Sternbach. Andy Probert, and Geoffrey Mandel through addresses on their websites ( I found them myself and did not ask other members). I got answers from all. In particular, Mandel answered within an hour of sending. They all seem like nice guys. However, I remember when Ed Mirecki got really pissed off after getting flooded by nearly identical email questions, from members of this forum I believe.
 
Posted by Boris (Member # 713) on :
 
Yes, and that's why research is important. I usually follow these steps:

1) Research. Make your questions so specific that they realize how much you know and can give a specific answer. Focus on what's most important to you, because they don't need to reply the second time around.

2) Make it clear that you're just a fan doing this as a hobby, and if you ever plan on posting their replies on websites or discussion forums, say so immediately to avoid the situation of knowing something you can't tell anyone else.

3) Keep in touch. If you really, really like something they recently did, tell them without bothering them with questions. I like to chat and even joke around with these guys on occassion. After all, most of them are former fans.

Boris
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
There's nothing former about their fandom. These guys love this stuff every bit as much as we do! [Smile]

Personally, I find it quite enchanting that folks like Geof Mandel, Anthony Fredrickson, Doug Drexler, and Rick Sternbach were followers of the original show and got to actively put together stuff like the Star Fleet Medical Reference Manual and Star Trek Maps in the 70's and eventually got to WORK on the actual production of the later shows. Quite amazing, and inspiring. I'm more than a little jealous of them... [Razz]

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Perhaps it would be better, Anyeurism, if you post your questions here first. As a new guy, many of them will very likely have been answered here already, or known by someone who has. That's what the forums are here for in the first place.

Firstly, i apologise for my outburst, its good to see that not everyone here lives up to their reputation.
Secondly my questions are not tech questions, they go a little something like this...
10 I'm studying media at the moment and the current genre i'm looking at is science fiction, in particular comparing english with american.i would like to get the views of a number of people in the industry, english and american, to tell me their views on the differences and what english sci fi needs to do. currently there are no english sci fi shows running.
2) i was hoping that they would be willing to send me some kind of autographed photo or something similar.

so thats it, with all respect mark no one here could answer my questions.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
no one here could ever hope to answer my question:

how many lights are there!?!?!
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
quote:
its good to see that not everyone here lives up to their reputation.
?
 
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
 
LOL. It took a lot of trust from a friend of mine to obtain the email addys/addresses of these two. even then, ive only contacted okuda once.

As for your questions, I doubt #2 will be fufilled. As for #1, i still dont think your getting any info from these boards, especially if your member number is in the 900s.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
You can take this for what it's worth from someone who has made career inquiries to fellow artists and designers: If you're going to ask for career advice and the like, I would make your questions much more clear. I read it twice and am still not quite sure what you're asking. If these are nice guys, they'll probably be willing to give you a couple paragraphs on what they think, but they probably won't guess at what you're trying to ask.

And yes... I agree... if you can find this contact info somewhere that *they* have posted it, you should feel perfectly free to contact them. They're inviting it. But I would be very wary of publicly posting someone's contact info... even if it was listed somewhere else.
 
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMike:
no one here could ever hope to answer my question:

how many lights are there!?!?!

THERE...ARE...FOUR...LIGHTS!


I've known Sternbach's web address for some time and since this thread started I found Mandel's as well. Can't find anything on Okuda though, and he'd be the one I'm most interested in.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Web site addresses aren't a problem... I think it's email addies that we're debating over.
 
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
 
Oh, I realize that...what I was getting at was that both Sternbach and Mandel list their email addresses on their respective sites. I found a site that looks like it could be for Mike Okuda, but it's under construction. Can someone give a 'yes' or 'no' as to whether Okuda does have an active site, or none at all. I'll continue googling if he does. Thanks.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I've never heard anything about Okuda having a website. I can't imagine he'd have much time to work on one.
 
Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
You can take this for what it's worth from someone who has made career inquiries to fellow artists and designers: If you're going to ask for career advice and the like, I would make your questions much more clear. I read it twice and am still not quite sure what you're asking. If these are nice guys, they'll probably be willing to give you a couple paragraphs on what they think, but they probably won't guess at what you're trying to ask.

I understand what you are saying but its not career advice i need. I know where I'm going and what i need to do to get there. Also asking the advice of americans on how to get in the British industry strikes me as a bit counter productive. I studying Sci-Fi at the moment and I'm doing some work on the differences between English and American shows (without stating the obvious in that America actual has some). Obviously it would improve my work if i could include the thoughts on the subject of some of the most successful people in the industry from both sides of the pond. and when i wrote to them i would obviously be more careful in my wording to ensure that i was being more clear and to the point.
since the rather "frosty" reply from the majority here i found sternbachs website with address. i cant find geoff mandels anywhere, even after trying multiple mays of spelling his names.

And by reputation i meant that a lot of other people on the net wont visit here for various reasons, mainly centering on alot of you being awkward and basically elitist mother fuckers. i can see why some people are that way although i think you all are just too quick to jump on people.
also proteus why the hell does member number change anything?? firstly i used to post under the name of iam2xtreme with a member number somewhre in the 800's, but i suppose thats not much better for you. i just dont understand why you're holding the fact i didnt find this place before i did against me.

end rant.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I'm heartbroken.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
this would be a perfect place for a giant rolleyes smiley, or perhaps a spastic animated gif if anyone is willing..
 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
We have a reputation? Funny, I've never heard Flare mentioned outside of here.

We're all elitist mother fuckers, yay! [Cool]
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
quote:
Funny, I've never heard Flare mentioned outside of here.
Well, I have. And it's always done by the members here. And it's always praise.
 
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
If Flare is elitist, then how the hell am I still a member here? I have no Treknology background, I have only a few flings with science-fiction outside of Star Trek, and my collection of Star Trek things can fit in a shoe box. All I really do around here is keep the General Sci-Fi area clean, review episodes and movies, and hang out in the Lounge. I'm pretty much next to useless in half of the forums.

On the topic, I'm with Aban Rune and others. Some people don't want their email addresses given out. Do a search on Google for that person's name and the word "email." If you can find a public website where that person has made his or her email address available, take that as an invitation contact them. If you can't find it, it's best to assume that he or she doesn't want it to be general knowledge.
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Forgive my elitism, but aneurysm appears to be a bit shite in his googling skills.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=geoffrey+mandel
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
That's cool. I didn't know Mandel was involved in so many ST things.

Aneurysm: If you haven't found the addresses by now, try searching Google's newsgroup archives.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
"If you're going to ask for career advice AND THE LIKE"

quote:
Originally posted by aneurysm:
I understand what you are saying but its not career advice i need. I know where I'm going and what i need to do to get there. Also asking the advice of americans on how to get in the British industry strikes me as a bit counter productive.
...
i just dont understand why you're holding the fact i didnt find this place before i did against me.[/QB]

This is my point.. I couldn't tell what you were wanting to ask the guy. I'm not trying to be "frosty", but the whole point of posting stuff here is to have discussion about it. You posted the questions you want to ask these guys, so I assume you want discussion about it. I couldn't understand it. I'm just trying to help.

Noone's holding the fact that you're new against you. It's just that when people show up and start asking for somewhat borderline stuff... can you really blame people for being a teensy bit skeptical?

If you post things here, you've got to expect that people are going to have differences of opinion about some of it... this is all I'm saying.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
quote:
And by reputation i meant that a lot of other people on the net wont visit here for various reasons, mainly centering on alot of you being awkward and basically elitist mother fuckers.
Dang! Is THAT Why Major Barclow wont come here!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 
quote:
And by reputation i meant that a lot of other people on the net wont visit here for various reasons, mainly centering on alot of you being awkward and basically elitist mother fuckers.
Yep, and?

[Razz] [Razz]
 
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 
quote:
And by reputation i meant that a lot of other people on the net wont visit here for various reasons, mainly centering on alot of you being awkward and basically elitist mother fuckers.
We're only elitist to our inferiors.
[Razz]
 
Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :
 
How many articles has Sternbach writen about starships? I know of 2. is there others? Where would one find them?
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Hey! Long time - no post B_S.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
In the May 2002 issue he wrote one on the Intrepid-class, and then there's this new one about the Constellation from the January 2003 issue. He also wrote one for the November (??? October? December?) 2002 issue on Klingon personal weapons, but it wasn't about starships.

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
I'd like on on that Intrepid-Class-that-wasn't! [Smile]

Of all the pics I've seen of that ship (I like it) I've never seen a shot front on of it's deflector dish.

Andrew
 
Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :
 
Homer: "I'm not a number! I have a name! Oh wait...."
*looks at number pinned to shirt*
 
Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :
 
I've been around, just not contributing. [Razz]

So only two starship articles. Cool.
 


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