quote:In addition to the always well-catalogued previous series and nine films, a real effort has been made to promote ENTERPRISE and NEMESIS. In addition to the armory are story boards and cardboard study models from ENTERPRISE pre-production. The walls have original concept art for the design of the NX-01, complete with doodlings and comments such as "Too futuristic" and "Keep the nacelles," and photographs document the building of key sets.
Your mission: to boldly circumvent flash photography bans...
We can, uh, have a race. Yes!
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
Went last Saturday. Been meaning to find the time to post about it.
Stuff I noticed that would be interesting to this board:
Excelsior model, labelled NCC-2000 on the underside and NCC-42111 on the top. Name wasn't legible from the angle, but looked like a single long word (i.e. no USS) could be Fredrickson.
Negh'Var model is strange - the underside is totally flat. Was this a shooting model? Did we ever see a Negh'Var from beneath until they went CGI?
Nice concept sketch of a retro klingon bird of prey for Enterprise. Not the Raptor, not the retro-D7, but a retro BoP. Take a BoP, scrunch it up, shorten the neck and wings, place the guns on top of the wings. Had the note 'save for a future episode' written on it.
NX-01 concept sketches were cool. About half a dozen concepts before getting near the NX-01. Some were labelled 'too 24th century' (and had typical Eaves dominion like nacelles) some were labelled 'too 21st century'. The first element to be decided on were the nacelles. Then the catamaran, then the saucer. It really didn't start to look like the Akira until the end of the process so I think stories about TPTB coming and sticking their noses in an making it Akira-like are true.
Some concept sketches for the ship seen from behind in the credits. Bad luck, all were aft views and it was just 'title sequence ship'. I don't think that anything more exists about this ship.
Label on a props display admitted that the starfleet rifle from Enterprise had previously been a bajoran rifle.
Lots of nice stuff to look at, but those were the techie highlights.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Hopefully I'll get round to going before it ends. . . But is it it worth it, all told? Plus, is photography allowed? Knowing what to look for, I might be able to get some snaps. . .
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
The tickets said no photography which is why I didn't take my camera. But there were lots of people snapping away and no seemed to be trying to stop them.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
quote:Excelsior model, labelled NCC-2000 on the underside and NCC-42111 on the top. Name wasn't legible from the angle, but looked like a single long word (i.e. no USS) could be Fredrickson.
If this is the original ILM model (& not the one built later for Voyager by Greg Jein), then this is proof that the Excelsior NCC-2000 was never relabeled or re-regged as any other ship it represented in the entirety of TNG or the first few seasons of DS9 until the Dominion War. (The only exception being the Melbourne in "Emissary," but wasn't that actually a model kit in the closeup?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: If this is the original ILM model (& not the one built later for Voyager by Greg Jein), then this is proof that the Excelsior NCC-2000 was never relabeled or re-regged as any other ship it represented in the entirety of TNG or the first few seasons of DS9 until the Dominion War. (The only exception being the Melbourne in "Emissary," but wasn't that actually a model kit in the closeup?
On the underside, you mean.
-MMoM Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Well, the underside of the ship was all we ever saw in TNG.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
No, this would be the 3-foot Excelsior model created for VOY "Flashback". The 8-foot model was modified into the Enterprise-B and then the Lakota, and was relabbeled accordingly for both appearances. The 3-foot model was obviously relabeled as the Fredrickson (sp) for its appearance in DS9 "A Time to Stand" and not since then.
However, this in turn suggests that the Excelsior model, if it was used at the end of DS9 "Call to Arms" (and not a GCI model), would still be labelled NCC-2000.
Mark
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
The plasma rifle from Enterprise is a modified Dominion weapon, though, and I don't think the Dominion and Bajoran models had much in common. So ha ha, fancy labeler types!
And before it was a Jem'Hadar weapon it was a Hunter-guys weapon, maybe that's where they got confused.
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
The prop on display was a Bajoran rifle painted silver. So if it wasn't used by Starfleet who was it used by?
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: No, this would be the 3-foot Excelsior model created for VOY "Flashback".
Yeah, the model looked close to 3 foot. Certainly much shorter than 8 foot. But hard to measure accurately when it's hanging some way above your head...
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
This is the Bajoran rifle. I've never seen it used as a Starfleet prop. That's not to say it hasn't been, since I don't watch Enterprise. Perhaps they considered using a redressed version as the plasma rifle, only to decide it was too alien-looking. I can't recall any other alien race carrying this prop either.
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
Yes, I know what the Bajoran rifle looks like. There was one of those, painted silver in a display case in the Enterprise section and labelled as a Starfleet rifle. I can't remember if it was specified what sort of rifle it was (plasma, phase, whatever). I can't recall seeing it in season one (all I've seen so far) of Enterprise either.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Exactly. So either it's been seen used but not noticed by anyone, or as I suggested it was considered for use but ultimately rejected. Why they thought a Dominion rifle doubling as a Starfleet weapon would be less easily noticed than a Bajoran one shall remain a mystery. 8)
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I think the Bajoran rifle is more distinctive, really.
I don't suppose it's possible that it was used in, uh, "Fortunate Son," is it?
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
I don't think so, at least I didn't see it. Maybe the Nausicans? The weapons they carried on the Fortunate were this variant of the plasma rifle. Or that's the best representation I could come up with!
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Found it. The Bajoran rifle, painted a sort of silvery grey, shows up in the possession of the deuterium refinery workers in "Marauders."
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