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Posted by Captain Cabac (Member # 354) on :
 
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What Rockt or Satellite ???
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
What the deuce?
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
no, on Flare its pronounced like this:

the "fuck!?"
 
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
 
Mmm... fudge.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
It's Nomad. [Razz]
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
water tank, chinese lantern, robot porn
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Wow, even at three in the morning on the university's data pipe those images take forever to load.

Anyway, didn't someone make (or find) a huge selection of images from "The Cage" which we poured over several months ago? I don't think we assigned a name to every object that appeared, but it would be a start. (We also never quite determined why the Enterprise seemed to have a 1960s social studies textbook stored.)
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
The lowermost image appears to be some sort of a ballistics experiment - what we see is the shockwave of a projectile, not the shape of the projectile itself. The satellite in the middle could be one of the early Explorers, but I have to check from my handy encyclopedia of astral junk. The topmost image seems to show an upward-pointing venturi-type rocket nozzle, which is odd to say the least - or then it's one of those Agena docking target/upper stage things from the Gemini program, sans the protective cowling.

The textbook naturally was there so that the Talosians could accurately reproduce the 1960s Finnish-descent lumberjack that Pike misidentified as a Rigelian warrior.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
 
Actually that was Thomas aka Captain Cabac himself who did that. I myself made my own caps at stguardian when I noticed this. However these images were not discussed.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Umm, something just ringed a bell about that single big upward-pointing nozzle..

NERVA?

Have to check a few references.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Akira (Member # 850) on :
 
http://www.nirgal.net/graphics/nerva.jpg

http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~js/space/lectures/lec11.html
 
Posted by Captain Cabac (Member # 354) on :
 
Thanks, Timo and Akira for the Info.
Picture Two is a Explorer 6 from Nasa.

This is not a ballistics experiment.
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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Umm, right. So what's with the motion blur?

And the rocket nozzle thingamabob ain't NERVA. The simple nozzle shape could suggest a solid-fueled rocket, but those usually have to be full size for realistic testing, meaning they'll be long and best tested horizontally. Perhaps that's an upside-down SLBM of some sort? The test rig seems a bit flimsy for supporting such a missile upright, though, if the cylinder is supposed to be the missile body.

Of course, that *could* be a rainwater reservoir...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
 
Maybe its just me but the third picture looks like the kind of generic cutaway, showing the basic layout of a Rocket, that you can commonly find in most science books. The blur effect seems to be similar to what you get with microfiche
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Sounds plausible.

Took a look at the background of the top picture, and saw chicken wire. The mesh could be to dissipate the blast from an engine test. But it could also be part of the reflector of a radio telescope. And this thing up front could be the focal assembly of the reflector, and not a rocket after all. Or a water reservoir.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by Captain Cabac (Member # 354) on :
 
Picture Two is not the Explorer 6 from Nasa

is the Pioneer 5
Pioneer 5
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
The first thing I saw on the first picture was the background 'dish edge'. Rain-tank would be the thing that sits above the dish in the middle.

Has anyone here seen the GREAT movie "The Dish"?
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
BTW, where in "The Cage" were these pictures and what were their purpose? Looks more like something you'd see in the Guardian of Forever
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
The impressively-noggined aliens went through the ship's databanks upon arrival at the planet (whose name is, crazily, lost to me), and the pictures conveniently showed up on the viewscreen.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Ahhh the Talosians. Talos VI. In the hammock district.
 


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