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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
Were there any starship names in Trek named after astronauts? I had an idea a week back and was wondering if there was ever a USS Armstrong or Aldrin etc.
 
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
 
There was an Armstrong... also a Grissom, Chaffee, Shepard, and Scovil. Maybe more.
 
Posted by Phoenix (Member # 966) on :
 
USS Armstrong (DS9 Apocalpse Rising)
USS Grissom NCC-623 (ST3)
USS Grissom (DS9 Field of Fire)
USS Shepard (ST4)

These are the only ones named after US astronauts as such, I think. There are non-US astronauts and astronomers as well.
 
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 

 
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 
This might be useful.
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Scovil?

Mark
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Scovil?

From the Operation Retrieve chart in TUC. NCC-1598. Named for Jack Scovil.

There was also a U.S.S. Hauck (named for NASA astronaut Frederick Hauck) in Rick Sternbach's tech writeup on the Intrepid-class from Star Trek: The Magazine.

The Defiant on DS9 had a shuttle named Chaffee.

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
Are we sure that it is named for Jack Scovil? Two other vessels on this chart were named after astronomers, so maybe the Scovil is named after astronomer Charles Scovil.

Who is this Jack Scovil, anyway? The only page that mentions him is yours, MMoM. I've tried "jack scovil+astronaut" and "jack scovil+nasa".
 
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Raven:
Were there any starship names in Trek named after astronauts? I had an idea a week back and was wondering if there was ever a USS Armstrong or Aldrin etc.

Here's a model I made of Starfleet's starship Armstrong:

USS Armstrong
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
Are we sure that it is named for Jack Scovil? Two other vessels on this chart were named after astronomers, so maybe the Scovil is named after astronomer Charles Scovil.

Who is this Jack Scovil, anyway? The only page that mentions him is yours, MMoM. I've tried "jack scovil+astronaut" and "jack scovil+nasa".

That's the source for the name that's given in Bjo Trimble's Star Trek Concordance, where the ship and the others from TUC are listed. But you could still be right. I don't know whether the name origins were furnished Trimble by Okuda or if she just researched the names herself and picked what she thought was the most likely candidate...

-MMoM [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
 
Wow thanks, especially for that link, Wraith
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
I've tried to find some reference to this Jack Scovil too. NASA's astronaut pages doesn't list him in any category, either active or former. http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/astrobio.html

Maybe he's become an unperson somehow?
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Nothing on an astronaut named Jack Scovil. The only well-known Jack Scovil out there is a New York literary agent.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
There's the shuttlecraft Onizuka and there's a Scobee too isn't there?
 
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Sorry to digress but where are the foward torp launchers for the Armstrong SoundEffect?
 
Posted by newark (Member # 888) on :
 
Jack Scovil was slated to be an Apollo astronaut; unfortunately for him, he was killed in an accident prior to the fire on board Apollo 1. I remember his name from the miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon", which aired on HBO and was subsequently released on DVD.
 
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
Scovil

Actually, I think Spike has it nailed on his website that it is not Jack Scovil, but Charles Scovil.

quote:
U.S.S. Scovil , NCC-1598
The Scovil did astronomical research in 2293.
ST6 The Undiscovered Country.

Named after astronomer Charles Scovil. According to Bjo Trimble's Concordance, the Scovil appeared on a computer display.

Upon further research, it seems logical, if not an in-joke or nod-of-the-hat, to have the ship conducting astronomical research, as that is what Charles Scovils job is.

Evidently Charles Scovil is a fairly prominent star-chart cartographer who issued the AAVSO Variable Star Atlas in 1982, and the 2nd edition in 1990. The AAVSO (the American Association of Variable Star Observers) is "the world's largest variable star organization, serving amateur and professional astronomers since 1911". Currently, this Scovil is on the AAVSO committee in charge of 'New Charts, Telescope'.
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
The following American astronauts died in plane crashes:
Theodore Freeman - October 31, 1964
Charles Bassett II - February 28, 1966
Elliot See - February 28, 1966
Clifton Williams, Jr October 5, 1967
Robert Lawrence, Jr. - December 8, 1967
Michael J. Adams - November 15, 1967
Stephen Thorne - May 24, 1986
Manley Carter, Jr. - April 5, 1991

Ed Givens was killed in a car crash on June 6, 1967

The deaths mentioned prominently in "From the Earth to the Moon" were those of Elliot See and Charlie Bassett.
 
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge:
Sorry to digress but where are the foward torp launchers for the Armstrong SoundEffect?

Couldn't find 'em on the study model photo, so mine doesn't have them for now either. I would conjecture the only logical place for them to be is on the Typhoon Sail piece somewhere.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Or then the ship doesn't have 'em. After all, neither does the Oberth class.

A tail tube might still be there for allowing the ship to better flee a fight, much like the Galaxy saucer has one.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
the starships Armstrong have given me a headache
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Identifying the cause is the first step towards the cure. It's DC Comics that have given you your headache.

I'm all for trying to incorporate Diane Duane's starships into the greater whole, although her weird timeline makes that a chore nowadays. But in the way of the comic books lies madness.

Of course, you could always say that any two coexisting Armstrongs are named after Neil and Louis, respectively.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
DC comics is the least of this one.. the real problem is the Oberth Armstrong from the Malibu DS9 premiere that comflicts with the Challenger Armstrong.. Duane's cutter Armstrong could be a civilian vessel or not be Starfleet, thus explaining it coexisting with th dreadnought Armstrong from the admittedly non-canonical 5.25 floppy Begin game.. the only problem with the DC Miranda Armstrong is its low registry, which is a problem that no longer irks me in light of NCC-1017 and its ilk
 


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