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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
A while back someone posted the original Reliant sketch with the nacelles on top, that was aproved by Harve Bennett except upside down.

I found that thread, but the scan is no longer on any webspace i can find.

does anyone have it?
 

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Posted by Griffworks (Member # 1014) on :
 
Are you referring to the pics from the "Star Trek: The Magazine" article that coincided w/the release of the ST:TWoK SE DVD? If so, you can find scans of that page on my Project: Avenger page.

HTH,
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
bitchingnarly!
 

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Posted by Triton (Member # 1043) on :
 
Thanks a lot Jeffrey! These drawings are very interesting in illustrating how a design evolves.

Thank goodness Harve Bennett approved an inverted version of the design. I think it looks rather silly with two ventral torpedo shrouds. I am glad that the art department rethought the design.
 

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Posted by Griffworks (Member # 1014) on :
 

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bitchingnarly!

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Originally posted by Triton:
Thanks a lot Jeffrey! These drawings are very interesting in illustrating how a design evolves.

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Thank goodness Harve Bennett approved an inverted version of the design. I think it looks rather silly with two ventral torpedo shrouds. I am glad that the art department rethought the design.

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Not me. I like it that way and rather wish they'd built it in that configuration! Definitely more of a warship. That's why I'm in the process of building a model in that configuration.
 

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Posted by Triton (Member # 1043) on :
 
PS--

Is the name Reliant a joke on Ricardo Montalban? During the 1980s Ricardo Montalban was the spokesperson for Chrysler Motor Company and they produced an economy car named the Reliant K. The most memorable commercial that Montalban made was for the Chrysler Le Baron luxury car. In his distinctive voice he would talk about "Rich Corinthian leather." Friends of mine and I would joke that the Reliant had seats made of "Rich Corithian leather."
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
The timing checks out... the Plymouth Reliant was introduced in 1981. A bit of googling shows Montalban to have been the pitchman for the 1975-1979 Chrysler Cordoba (it had the Reech Corinthian Leather, not the Le Baron) and potentially other cars as well in the following years. Lee Iacoca's infamous ads for the K-cars at the time of their introduction probably meant that Khan himself never told the American public to buy a K-car, but some wag amongst the writers seeing the connection is certainly possible.
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
they produced an economy car named the Reliant K.

Awesome band, man.
 

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Did you just call RELIANT K...an awesome band?

Alright, that's it. Seriously. Give me & Simon your fucking address. We're so SERIOUSLY going to educate you in music.
 

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Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
Simon will dispense some Dave Matthews and Hootie and the Blowfish medicine. Followed by some Erich Kunzel and the Cincinatti Pops Orchestra playing all of the good old Star Trek Tunes.

CHIPPING AWAY AT THE MYSTIQUE. ONE DAY AT A TIME. LIKE TODAY. BECAUSE IT IS A DAY. AND I HAVE USED UP MY QUOTA.
 

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Ultra Magnus will one day lead an army of oppressed villagers against me, and I will be all "You!? But...together we could have ruled the world!" And he will say "I am sorry my friend, but you have gone too far." And then we will have a swordfight in my secret doomsday weapon laboratory, ending with me plunging into the active volcano I was intending to use as a power source. He will stand on the catwalk and stare down into the abyss, while the men and women he led to freedom will come to him and say "You have freed us! We should be rejoicing!" And they will not understand why he is so somber.

But will I really die in that pit of firey doom? Will I indeed.
 

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Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
TEH SIMON PHENIXX RISES !!
 

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Posted by Cartmaniac (Member # 256) on :
 
To be educated by Simon...

ICEPICK THROUGH THE BRAIN.
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Erich Kunzel and the Cincinatti Pops Orchestra playing all of the good old Star Trek Tunes.

I have that, actually...
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 

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Simon will dispense some Dave Matthews and Hootie and the Blowfish medicine.

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Originally posted by Cartmaniac:
To be educated by Simon...

ICEPICK THROUGH THE BRAIN.

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In Mexico City and NO ONE noticed he had an Icepick?!?!?! Don't piss off Stalin.
 

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Posted by CaptainMike20X6 (Member # 709) on :
 
gifbash'd !!


 

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Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
 
I think I'm going to be sick
 

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Posted by CaptainMike20X6 (Member # 709) on :
 
not the effect i was striving for, i assure you
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
NIce rendering, Mike....though the ship looks like shit that way.
 

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Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
It looks better upside down...
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
....why, you may be on to something there.
 

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Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 
I just hope it doesnt shoot torpedoes out of that lower pod...
 

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Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
 
Lower pods. One on each side of the nav dome. So what's the problem?
 

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Posted by Griffworks (Member # 1014) on :
 
Nice rendering, Cap'n. Just a note, tho: you have the rounded "torpedo" shaped thing from the standard photorp pod there, which is incorrect for the primary concept drawings from the ST:Mag issue. It shows the two outboard pods as basically being the photorp deck area from the Refit "glued" back to back and filled out to more of a rectangular shape. The shape in the background in the one side-view from the image has pretty much got to be a "shadow" to show a possible single, centerline underside pod, as the aft and overhead views don't indicate the shape you portray. The three small hand-drawn images at the upper left of the one pic indicate what they were working towards, which dropped the centrally placed pod down a bit more to allow clearance of the lower sensor array. I'm glad they changed it to two outobard pods, as I feel it flows a bit better than w/on central pod.

Unless of course you were taking some artistic license and added that in. Nevermind if that's what you were goin g for. I'd be curious to see a couple othere views, if that's the case.

And please ignore Jason. He was abused by a donkey as a small child and apparently is still being abused by other farm critters to this day....
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 

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And please ignore Jason. He was abused by a donkey as a small child and apparently is still being abused by other farm critters to this day.... [/QB]

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I've long suspected you were a closet furry, Jeff.
Leave me out of those fantasies, please.
 

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Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
 

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Lower pods. One on each side of the nav dome. So what's the problem?

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Originally posted by Identity Crisis:
Lower pods. One on each side of the nav dome. So what's the problem?

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The dome on the bottom of the saucer appears to be in the direct sight of fire where the torpedoes come out....as far as it looks on the side-view, that would appear to be a problem judging solely on that...

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And please ignore Jason. He was abused by a donkey as a small child and apparently is still being abused by other farm critters to this day....

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