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Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
The one from Excelsior, that is.

I was thinking about contributing to Memory Alpha, and noticed that transwarp is still blank, so I decided to fill that blank, but then started thinking, and...

Anyway... the way I see it, TOS transwarp and TNG transwarp are two different transwarps. For example, you can't have infinite speed with TOS warp scale The way I see it, TOS transwarp was "only" a faster, more efficient warp drive.

If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Scotts guide to Enterprise claims that transwarp project was actually a success.

And, what if it's the truth? That Excelsiors were equipped with this new, revolutionaly warp drive that influenced new designs in new century, forcing enginners to adapt new warp scale and new definition of transwarp?
 

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Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
 
I dunno... Why would transwarp have worked but we get a few spotty references that say Starfleet never got transwarp to work right? Why name transwarp for one thing and then use the word for another thing?

I feel that the Excelsior Transwarp Project was attempting to go as far as TNG Transwarp, all the way to the Borg's version [I ignore "Threshold", you can too]--- however it never worked to that extent. But, it did make certain breakthroughs and ships did go faster. Even then, each proceeding generation improves a little more towards the TNG Transwarp, but even up to the time of the Sovereign Class it hadn't been done yet [and again, I ignore "Threshold", you can too].
 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Personally I like to think that the Excelsior transwarp technology was based on research done (and imperfect reconstruction) by top Starfleet engineers on the wreckage of the Borg sphere from ENT "Regeneration."
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 

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Originally posted by Kazeite:
If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Scotts guide to Enterprise claims that transwarp project was actually a success.

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You're not mistaken, but said book also says that Enterprise A's nacelles are transwarp upgrades that just (suprise!) look exactly like the old Connie Refit's!
Duh.

I prefer to think that while Transwarp itself didint pan out, it did lead to more eficent engines and better power consumption rates or some damn thing to warrant the Excelsior class' widespread construction.
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
The computer on the Excelsior did say "All speeds available through trans-warp drive". That could be interpreted to mean ALL speeds, i.e. Threshhold transwarp. But it could also be interpreted to mean anything else you like.
 

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Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
You're not mistaken, but said book also says that Enterprise A's nacelles are transwarp upgrades that just (suprise!) look exactly like the old Connie Refit's!
Duh.

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On the other hand, if transwarp drive was a complete failure and was replaced with standard warp drive, it still looks (surprise!) exactly like the old transwarp drive.

Also, DS9 Mirandas and Excelsiors had glowing nacelles too, which strongly suggests that they had their warp drive upgraded, without changes to the exterior.

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I prefer to think that while Transwarp itself didint pan out, it did lead to more eficent engines and better power consumption rates or some damn thing to warrant the Excelsior class' widespread construction.

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Yeah... I think that's the most reasonable assumption

(and BTW, I don't ignore "Threshold", and I actually think that I can explain most of the inconsistencies! )
 

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