Remember the old story about the Millenium Falcon being in ST:FC? Well at Trek BBS someone is showing a couple of screencaps of a weird ship. Quality isn�t too good, though. Anyone with better caps? And what the hell is that ship?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Hmmm - looks more like some sort of shuttle.
I didn't realise a Miranda was in there - and also someone is claiming an Oberth, I just think it's a wierd angle of either a Norway, Akira or Sabre.
I'll post the pictures here - I'm not registering to TrekBBS!! The thing in that picture is probably Major Barclow! Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I find the exploding NORWAY on the right to be more interesting. A nice front on view - shows how the nacelles don't "bend down" so much - but are more horizontal.
This could be on Oberth on the left - but I don't think it is - the Nacelles are too wide. I think it is something like an Akira upside down. The grey arcs behind it I think are just artefacts of either the stars or the movement of the 'camera' or the capture process capturing the ship in movement?
The 'unknown' ship is behind the green Borg tractor beam in the first image.
Could that 'unknown' ship be a SECOND Defiant Class starship?
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Thanks Andrew! Damn, the green beam hides that ship...Any clearer shot?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
We had a silhouette analysis of the left ship here last year, I think - it was an Oberth.
Mark
Posted by Intruder1701 (Member # 880) on :
Kinda looks like maybe a Centaur class or maybe Curry. Look at the Excelsior style saucer and what looks like two nacelles coming from it and part of a secondary hull
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Well it wouldn't be as those kitbashes weren't made yet.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Definitely an Oberth: scaled wrong but an Oberth nonetheless.
I dont really see the "exploding NOrway" andrew refers to though...
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
I see a Miranda Class with a nacelle blowing up... kinda like ST2 in the second pic.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Same here: oddly, in the second pic, the first Miranda appears to be firing a torpedo at the damaged one.... A little Borg-borading party mabye?
Posted by MarianLH (Member # 1102) on :
Is it April already?
Marian
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
That's an exploding Norway to the top right of the Miranda in the second picture - it is front on to us.
I think the Oberth is NOT an Oberth, but either and Akira or more likely another Norway.
As for another picture of the unknown blob ship - through that link someone has posted other - less clear screen captures.
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Same here: oddly, in the second pic, the first Miranda appears to be firing a torpedo at the damaged one.... A little Borg-borading party mabye?
The Miranda with the exploding nacelle is a Saber, it's pretty clear in the first picture which is taken from a few seconds after the second picture. Watching the scene I can see the odd ship that's being mentioned, but my monitor's too dark to make it out very well. "Looks pointy" is about all I can add.
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
The blob shown at Trekbbs just below the Akiras nacelle is apparently moving from right to left, from the borg cube to the akira. Thus it�s thicker aft not fore, it can�t be an oberth. The caps are video, I think, does anyone have dvd-cpas of it, without the green beam interfering?
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
OK, I've just watched the DVD of this battle a few times on various zoom levels and I'm pretty sure that it's almost certainly the Falcon zipping aroung in the background. For one thing, they set the shot up so it emerges from behind the cube just as a torpedo explodes on the surface. So it looks like it's emerging from the cube itself, like at the end of RotJ. Which lends credence to the in-joke idea. As for the ship near the bottom of the 1st & third pictures, DEFINITELY and Oberth, no doubt about it. You can make out the secondary hull and everything.
Posted by Bond, James Bond (Member # 1127) on :
Some people are still saying it's an April Fools joke. John Knoll said he did it, what's his incentive to lie about it?
If only there was a history of in-jokes from other scifi series on Trek or a history of ILM inserting the Millenium Falcon into other scifi movies. Oh wait, there is.
In the end we will just have to wait for the Special Edition DVD of First Contact. I'm sure they'll mention that rumor in some way in one of the commentaries...
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Or deny it. Isn't Lucas kinda tetchy about that sort of thing, especially in big-budget movies?
Mark
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Lucas is a little man.
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Little?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Short.
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
So, still now screencaps of the "thing" flying from the cube to under the akira?
Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :
I can try to find my DVD today and take some caps.
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
That would be very nice indeed, a bit blown-up perhaps, with the zoom-thingie?
Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :
Here are some caps at 200x, but the ship is still just a blurry thingy flying by.
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Thanks Deadcujo! Yeah, just a grey blob...But it�s definetly not an Oberth. What could it be?
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Akira Class... at least the one near the left nacelle of the Akira Class facing the Cube.