Wow, star trek.com has posted pics of the gorn ship, go to this link and check it out. Fairly ugly I would say, but I really like the fact that it�s a drasticly new design!
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Weird. I'm getting something of an Oberth vibe from the overhead view here...
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Oh man, you�re right, now why didn�t I see that. Even the dome is vagely oberth-esque..
But I stand by my statement, it looks fairly unique and alien. (at least it�s not green..)
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
But is that because they chose not to make it green, or because it appears to lack anything but default materials?
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Actually, it was a joke in response to someone�s comment on trekbbs where the poster said that every alien ship on Star Trek was green. And obviously that�s not the case, but the artists do seem to like green, romulans, klingons, orions, many aliens from "Enterprise" and so on.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I'm probably not the first person to say it, but I said that over here.
As for the Gorn ship, I'm trying to work out that secondary hull in my head. It looks like a fifth nacelle to me.
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Oh, did I say trekBBS? I meant Flare of course, I mean trekBBS, seriously? ;-)
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Hey, I post at TrekBBS as well. But only in the Art and Tech forums. I stay away from the rest of them.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Oooh, and there's K-7 as well(although obviously not a new design, thank goodness).
The Gorn design is fairly good. I mean, it's quite a basic model, so there's not an awful lot to go on. The nacelles on the top are very similar to the 1701 and Romulan BoP's ones, I think I actually like that though. It seems like a TOS thing to do.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Fucking WHOA.
That is some nice alien shit, man, & it TOTALLY assfucks the 40 years of prevailing fandom concept that the Gorn philosophy is "push hard until it moves--who cares what it looks like?" Nice as shit.
Also, I see that on Miri's world, the island of Hainan is actually connected to the mainland. Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I guess the Gorn don't like to look out of windows.
Also hurray new K-7!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Baddass design- I agree with Shik here- it rocks. No other race is more maligned by games and fandom than the Gorn- both FASA and SFB use them as third-rate bozos with inferior tech- despite the Gorn in Arena clearly being tough and having cutting edge ships.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
quote:Trek.com said: ... So with nothing to compare it to, we can only marvel in this design that reinforces the concept that to achieve warp speed capabilities, nacelle-type structures are required and that a dorsal command center/bridge is also standard.
I have to disagree with the second part about the bridge, but I think the design is pretty neat. Of course, seeing it with textures would help.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Why does the screen cap from "Arena" look all blurry, but this image is so much better?
Are they going to go back and change episodes they've already tweaked once?
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
quote:Originally posted by Starship Freak: Actually, it was a joke in response to someone�s comment on trekbbs where the poster said that every alien ship on Star Trek was green. And obviously that�s not the case, but the artists do seem to like green, romulans, klingons, orions, many aliens from "Enterprise" and so on.
I think it started with green working better for cloaking effects and spiralled out of control from there.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I don't like how the top set of nacelles looks different from the bottom set.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
quote:Why does the screen cap from "Arena" look all blurry, but this image is so much better?
I'm guessing because they had to adhere to the scripted episode, which clearly stated that the Gorn ship was far away from them. I'm also guessing that even though that was the case, TPTB always intended to post the actual design on the internet anyway, to please us dorks. Keep in mind (now that I've seen the episode) that that blurry 'cap looks the way it does because the ship was only a speck on the viewscreen, and someone blew up the cap about 300% to make out the details. The ship looked as clear as day when it was the size of my pinky fingernail.
I hope the unfinished look of the model was because they knew it wasn't going to be seen up close, because I certainly hope the Antares & the Woden don't look that way.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Its also possible that they weren't able to finish it on time and that's why it's used in the episode the way it is.
This is of course, an unlikely possibility.
Posted by Irishman (Member # 1188) on :
It's sufficiently alien-looking and different to make me believe it, and make me look it over and ask "how does that son of a bitch work anyway?"
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: I don't like how the top set of nacelles looks different from the bottom set.
Maybe the bottom set are back-ups while the top set are the main nacelles. As for the model being untextured, maybe it's supposed to be all white. Personally, I think it would look nice with a chrome finish!
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
As long as it isn't green..... Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Gorn vessel seen before?? Hmm I'd LIKE to think that the creators of this ship are referencing a ship that could POSSIBLY be Gorn in "The Time Trap" TAS. There is a Gorn in the episode - so why not a Gorn ship:
The for naceller - with one at the back all connected to a boxy type structure in the middle - grey coloured - roughly in the top-middle of the pic.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Looks sorta like a TOS version of the Tamarian vessel from "Darmok" also reused as a vessel in DS9's season 1 can't remember who though.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
It is also known as the Hopi class survey cruiser, at least if you ask Mark Wilson. Meet the Aliquippa.
And the Tamarian vessel, itself a modification of a Talarian design, was taken for a joyride by the Klaestron, the T'Lani, the Bothans and the Drayans at least... Bernd knows.
Seriously, the TAS artists had a sick fixation with Federation-style nacelles in that episode. Which is a bit surprising, seeing how nacelles are less of a fixture in other alien starship designs in that show. But the Gorn connection... Wow. Who in the remastering team was Trekkie enough to come up with that?
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Ahhhh the Klaestrons! That's who it was - I remember the ship was caught in a tractor beam.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Oh and - Just because they have Federation-esque nacelles doesn't mean they are Federation ships - or at least Starfleet ships!! Why'd that guy draw all those blueprints thinking they were Starfleet? There was only two Starfleet ships in that ep wasn't there? The Enterprise and the Bonaventure?
Posted by Kobi (Member # 1360) on :
That pink/purple thing lower right has got to be one of the most realistic looking Trek style designs yet! Two warp nacelles, a central hub which could contain a deflector and three spherical pressure hulls. Impulse drive is mounted behind the deflector. Marvelous. If real life FTL is achievable and uses two sled shaped generators mounted externally on scaffolds, we could be looking at the first starship.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Actually, it looks like it could fall apart if you touch it wrong.
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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Been there. Been up it. . . three times? Wow.
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
Brussles! Ergh. Nasty place.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
The reddish object 'closest' to camera at the bottom left - looks like it could be Vulcan! There is even a ring object!
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
That green ship could have made a good Daedalus contemporary if only it wasn't green.
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Maybe it's grown moss over the years...
--Jonah
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Space Moss�
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Or perhaps the ship was made of copper and exposure to oxygen caused it to turn green like the Statue of Liberty Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Space Oxygen.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Generated by Space Trees.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
In Space Soil.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
From Space Seed.
(End this. Now.)
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
FINISH HIM!!!! Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
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