He just started it. By the looks of it, we may be in for a treat, model-pic-wise. He's already shown a pic of the Frederickson and the rare Enterprise History Wall models.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Awesome!
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Cool. I already enjoy Mojo's blog, I wonder if there are any other former Trek effects guys showing off rare insights and images?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Remind me, who was it who was generally abusive to anyone who presumed to dare to contact his magnificence? Jein? Or Miarecki?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
I think you're talking about Ed Miarecki. He was less than diplomatic, IIRC. But, to be fair, he probably did have genuinely better things to do than answer nitpicky questions about study models from TNG.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Actually what happened was this: Someone here at Flare (I'm pretty sure it was me ) happened to be looking at his resume on his website one day, and noticed that he had built study models for the Melbourne, Kyushu, Chekov, Buran, and Ahwahnee (this was before the Wolf 359 thread). Said person posted his find on Flare, and five thousand people proceeded to email Miarecki with the exact same question: "Any photos?" He had every right to get pissed off. I just hope nobody pisses off Drexler.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
One would assume that he's thought through the implications of starting a blog and the added attention it might bring. . .
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
You'd be surprised. I'm a nobody and even I get about 10 "annoying trekkie" emails a week. I shudder to think what someone of some notability get bombarded with.
Posted by Captain Serek (Member # 1038) on :
I am following his blog and he is promising some cool pix from his days at Star Trek.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
He seems pretty gracious so far.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Drexler is a good guy. Back when I could maintain my site he emailed me once complimenting it. At first skeptical, I emailed back asking for something only the real deal could offer and got it. To me he comes off as someone who knows the kind of fan support Star Trek gets and the effort fans put into and respects it.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I tend to inherently like people who genuinely have fun at their jobs. Drexler obviously does.
Posted by Vanguard (Member # 1780) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: You'd be surprised. I'm a nobody and even I get about 10 "annoying trekkie" emails a week. I shudder to think what someone of some notability get bombarded with.
Actually, I'm honestly surprised you're not getting more Animated DCVerse emails than Trek these days.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Barely a peep out of that crowd. Either they're much more shy than the trekkies or I haven't made much of an impression on that front. Probably both.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Huh. you should see if DC.com will allow you to link to their site- I'd bet the fanboy-mail would fly in. I mean, consider that thousands of fans collect that line of "justice League" figures in that style- you'd be a big hit with that crowd.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
We haven't talked more about this site. I bring attention to some pics Drexler has of the DS9 kitbashes.
Seems like the the third nacelle was meant to go on top.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
I think that's only because it was easier to take photos of it while being balanced on two nacelles instead of just one :-)
Really, there's no name or reg, so it could be either orientation. When Drexler originally sent me the side view, it was two nacelles up, one nacelle down. That works for me.
I'm just patiently waiting for the Enterprise-J orthos he'll be posting after March 15.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah he describes the E-J as being huge. Too big for turbolifts, instead relying on sight to sight transporters.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Heeey look- that third pic is the Elkins with the nacelles removed.
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Well, regarding the Hutzel, isn´t that a bridgedome? If so, the third is absolutely on top.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
There's a bridge dome on the other side too, so that's hardly conclusive. Not that it matters, these are only distant background fillers, not actual designed ships.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
The Starfleet arrowheads on the pylons are upside down with one nacelle down, but rightside up with two. Also, the motion control mount, which is usually on the bottom where it won't be seen, is on the two-nacelled side. These two points indicate to me that it was intended to be arranged with two on the bottom and one on the top, as Drexler drew it in the DS9TM and as shown in these new pictures.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Wow... someone watched SW: Episode 2 before doing those Vulcan architecture drawings.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
According to Drexler in this comment, he'd never seen any of the prequels. John Eaves' comment on the same question doesn't specifically say that, but it's implied that he hadn't seen it either.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I was talking about Eaves drawings. They look strikingly like Padme's apartment building.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Eaves posted some concept designs for the NX-01. One of them looks like a precursor to the STIX Enterprise.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Only, of course, better.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Ahh! The underside of the Enterprise-J! FINALLY!!
And it's pretty much a mirror of the top. Ah well, we also get an aft view, so I'm sure the fandom can figure out the five-view from there. You really get a sense of the ship's size though. It would easily dwarf a Galaxy-class starship. Funky nacelle struts too.
Mark
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
It looks like it's in the same size class as one of the REALLY big starbases or the Voth cityship. Perhaps a multi generational trans-galactic explorer?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I usually question the need for a generational ship in Starfleet's future. I was hoping that by the 27th century or whenever the E-J was built, that transwarp or even faster tech would allow Starfleet to zip pretty much anywhere in the galaxy, or even to neighboring galaxies, within months or years at the most. Still dowsn't rule out the multi-year missions that the E-D was originally built for, though.
With a crew of thousands or more, this Enterprise could probably be a sort of mobile starbase and local hub of exploration for thousands of light years around. Smaller starships could be assigned to short-range exploration around the travelling city, which could itself be in another galaxy for years at a time. The Enterprise could have a huge civilian population, maybe even with a small campus for Starfleet Academy in there.
Ahh, fan speculation. How I miss your warm slathering touch...
Mark
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Maybe the Enterprise-J is going to explore other galaxies A while back a modder from Bridge Commander made an Ent-J and filled in the blanks with his own guestwork. He wasn't too far off. At least now I can disregard this other fan made Ent-J which had a ridiculous "shark fin" structure on its ventral side.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
One thing that comes to mind when looking at the scale of the E-J: the General Systems Vehicles from Ian M. Banks' Culture novels. Whereas the Culture has Orbitals, Rocks and Planets as well, the GSVs are considered the backbone of their civilisation - giant spaceships with populations in the millions, always on the move around the galaxy, never really stopping in one place for very long.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I really dig it- it might house a couple of smaller starships that scout ahead to determine what's intresting and safe for the civvies on board.
Judging by the shallow angle of the saucer, it would need to be very large indeed to have multiple decks.
I'm thinking larger than the Voth ship in length though probably not in volume.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I'm sure Doug wasn't thinking of precise size or scale when he built the thing, and it's really tough to judge deck count or size based on the "windows" we see. However, if you look at the middle of the saucer, IF the rows of windows there could be analogous to a more typical saucer section, then just the middle part could be twice as wide as a Galaxy's saucer..! The outer windows could be portholes to large internal areas like parks or communal areas.
In one of my favorite anime series "Macross" (et.al.), humanity is nearly extinguished when the Earth's surface was basically destoyed during an alien attack. Knowing there were plenty more hostile threats out there, the surviving population decides to embark on a program of colonization, building a series of ever-larger colony fleets with populations up to ten million. Some would find planets to colonize, while others would be cruising space for decades, but all with the knowledge that if Earth were ever to be destroyed, humanity would survive out there.
I can see the Enterprise-J as an extension of that school of thought. We know that folks the Borg, the Dominion, and even the Xindi had plans of destroying the human species for one reason or another. In the case of the Xindi, we know that if they had succeeded they would have continued a campaign of finding human worlds and destroying them. So, Starfleet extends the idea of bringing families on starships to purposefully building a ship to carry a representation of the Federation as a whole, such that if the next alien attack succeeds, the Federation would survive to start again.
How Galactica.
Mark
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I dont think that would be a humans-only clubhouse- recall that even the cardassians serve n the J. I think it's more a grand exploration to neighboring galaxies (though you'd need something faster than Transwarp to reach Andromeda in a laifetime). Also, there could be real species-specific population controls in the Trek future to sonserve resources and avoid wars...possibly the ship only starts out 3/4 full of civilians to avoid that.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Just look at those beautiful Elkins shots! Bernd must be in seventh heaven over this blog.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Oh yeah, they are nice. But I wonder Jason if you saw Drex's post on the status of Galileo Shuttlecraft. Its in some dump somewhere and it looks like Shite.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Sad for a prop with such history to go that way but it's happened before- almost all the original Star Wars fullsize ship props were destroyed due to termites and wood rot.
In truth, I never liked the TOS shuttle design- it was a box with nacelles that did nothing.
I wonder what happened to the 1:1 Runabout sets though.
Suprisingly, the Elkins shots held no suprises for me- I got pretty much everything right on my small model (though I bet Soundeffect's is far closer to that exact model- I tweaked a few things on mine). Thanks go to Bernd for hosting those few references shots I had prior.
I posted a link and a reply on Drexler's blog but afterwards I caught an error and a typo and look a fool (moreso than usual). Lament!
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Regarding the E-J, Drexler estimates that the ship is around two miles in length, the crew uses site-to-site transporters to get to the distant parts of the ship, and the saucer itself is around 30 decks thick.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
That is crazy shit right there. 30 decks thick at the saucer...(shakes head) I'm thinking Data would have to come back just to manage security on such a vessel.
Maybe they could have teams of roving Horta for trash detail.
You know what? Screw the new movie- I want a series with this ship!
Also, I need orthographic views for building a physical model- even a large model would have to be 1:10,000th scale though. And here I just bought some Steel spray paint for a Sentinel I'm re-painting for my roommate. Fate? I'm saying, [b]yes[/b[.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Yeah, this ship just screams series, and it's large means there could be episodes which focus solely on specific parts of the ship. I mean at this point it would be more like a city than a ship.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Absolutely- it would have all the story potential of starbase and starship life.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Yes, let's create a show that combines all thw worst bits of DS9 and Voyager. You'd probably end up with something like The Office, in space.
I'm less interested in the settings of any future Trek series, than the style. That whole episodic, 42-minute, four-act structure is so passé. I want challenging human drama, not trite morality plays about humanity's (well, the white middle-class American part of it) manifest destiny in the universe.
The other morning, Dominic West (star of The Wire) was interviewed on the Today programme (BBC Radio 4's flagship political radio show) ofor what was obviously a puff-piece for the Beeb's terrestrial showing of The Wire. He bemoaned the fact that UK drama these days only seems to be good at period pieces. Well, the Trek shows you all seem to want are period dramas at this point. I want something like The Wire, the Sopranos, Mad Men, Six Feet Under, The Shield, Breaking Bad, Generation Kill. BSG was the only show being lumped in with that lot and it's gone now; I had high hopes for Virtuality but last reports were that Fox were lobotomising it.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
Well if they put in a ZPM they could travel to other galaxies in 3 weeks.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Somehow I think hyperdrive is a lot faster than warp drive. I mean, they have cargo ships regularly crossing the galaxy for Ori's sake.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lee: You'd probably end up with something like The Office, in space.
Don't diss the Office - either country's version.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: Well if they put in a ZPM they could travel to other galaxies in 3 weeks.
It's 3 weeks without the ZPM- four days ith one (according to the season one finale of SGA).
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
quote:Originally posted by Lee: You'd probably end up with something like The Office, in space.
Don't diss the Office - either country's version.
Er, I wasn't.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lee:
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
quote:Originally posted by Lee: You'd probably end up with something like The Office, in space.
Don't diss the Office - either country's version.
Er, I wasn't.
I will, US adaptations of UK shows, from my experience, rate slightly lower than, say, shitty.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ritten:
quote:Originally posted by Lee:
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
quote:Originally posted by Lee: You'd probably end up with something like The Office, in space.
Don't diss the Office - either country's version.
Er, I wasn't.
I will.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
The American Office is hilarious. More than that, though, it really does a wonderful job developing the relationships between the characters and not becoming a caricature of itself.
I don't watch the British version, so I'm not able to judge it, and I'm not trying to say the American one is better. But it definitely is a good show and does not deserve to be dissed.
Not directed toward you, Lee, as I know you weren't doing that...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lee:
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR:
quote:Originally posted by Lee: You'd probably end up with something like The Office, in space.
Don't diss the Office - either country's version.
Er, I wasn't.
Cool. That's OK then. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"I will, US adaptations of UK shows, from my experience, rate slightly lower than, say, shitty."
The American version did a terrible job of imitating the British version. This is obvious from the first couple episodes, which recycled a couple scripts from the original. However, after those first couple episodes, the American version did a brilliant job of developing its own characters, loosely comparable to the original's.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I haven't really had a chance to see much of The Office US. The Beeb showed the first season with all its less-than-par knock-offs as Tim mentioned, then lost interest. I've seen one or two episodes really late at night on ITV. It looks OK. The original UK version, I was pretty meh about.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Hey! Our wayward son, Timo is in the Elkis thread!
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
I only started watching The Office from Season 2, so I didn't realize it had gotten off to a rocky start. But yeah, it's been a great show since then, apart from a little dull stretch during part of the fourth season.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dat: Regarding the E-J, Drexler estimates that the ship is around two miles in length, the crew uses site-to-site transporters to get to the distant parts of the ship, and the saucer itself is around 30 decks thick.
A thought occurs; a ship that size could have a sizeable cetacean habitat. In fact, weren't there supposed to be Xindi on the crew of this thing? Hell, it's big enough to have several alternate environments for Medusans, Tholians etc.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: I only started watching The Office from Season 2, so I didn't realize it had gotten off to a rocky start. But yeah, it's been a great show since then, apart from a little dull stretch during part of the fourth season.
I can't WAIT for the next episode - after the brilliant last episode with... Michael... not spoiling!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend:
quote:Originally posted by Dat: Regarding the E-J, Drexler estimates that the ship is around two miles in length, the crew uses site-to-site transporters to get to the distant parts of the ship, and the saucer itself is around 30 decks thick.
A thought occurs; a ship that size could have a sizeable cetacean habitat. In fact, weren't there supposed to be Xindi on the crew of this thing? Hell, it's big enough to have several alternate environments for Medusans, Tholians etc.
Hell yeah! It would be a miniature Federation all unto itself- truly representing the diversity of the UFP to all the species they encounter.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Update: It seems that the name printed on the "Centaur" DS9 kitbashed model is "U.S.S. Buckner," after Adam Buckner, one of the people who built the models.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I thought we'd never see what this ship really looked like! His blog is really becoming a treasure trove of inside info that we would otherwise never get to see. I check it regularly now.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
I thought we'd never see what this ship really looked like! His blog is really becoming a treasure trove of inside info that we would otherwise never get to see. I check it regularly now.
I've been waiting for this day my whole life, this day of reckoning. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Fascinating similarities to the Romulan Bird of Prey, suggesting some truth to the theory that the Romulan’s had stolen intel on this ship, and built their own version.
Yeah....but if the Romulans were so primitave in their warp capabilites that they'd copy this bucket, how could they have even stolen the plans? They'd never have made it to earth to plant a spy.
Unless, you say there are Romulan spys among the Vulcans, but if that were so, they'd just steal the far more advanced Vulcan designs instead.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Except of course there really WAS Romulan spies on Vulcan. Not that I think the Romulan's nicked the design, the vague similarity could just be a coincidence. That or the Emmette was reverse engineered from an old, obsolete Vulcan design, one that's very similar the the ships they had pre-Surak...
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
Well, if they were without warp technology, I think it's safe to assume that their technology level is around that of 21st century Earth, probably around the time they discovered warp. I'd be willing to bet that an early Human design like this would be a hell of a lot easier to copy than a Vulcan design, which would be more complex.
Also, there may be security issues. Infiltrating the Vulcan society is one thing, but getting to their technology, might be a whole nother story. It'd probably be easier to get into a Human facility, disguised as a Vulcan, than it would be to get into a Vulcan facility.
Alternatively, if, they did travel into earth territory, although it may have taken a long time, it would probably be easier to hijack a Human ship, with it's relatively puny defenses, than it would a Vulcan ship. With sufficient work on the part of the Romulans, I'm sure the ships disappearance could be made to look like an accident, and very little would probably come of any investigation, given Earth's limited resources (yeah, I know they'd be aided by the Vulcans, but I doubt they'd commit everything they had to an investigation.).
Who knows...perhaps the Romulans copied the Iceland instead. Those ships probably have more range from home, so little could be done about any disappearance. I'm just glad that we finally have this ship to feast our eyes on.
Edit: Odd...when I hover my mouse over the pictures on the blog, they are shown as labeled "iss emmette". Mirror Universe? Maybe the front of the model wasn't finished until the scene it was used in was modified for the MU episode title sequence.
Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sean: He's put up the orthos of the Iceland...
I thought we'd never see what this ship really looked like! His blog is really becoming a treasure trove of inside info that we would otherwise never get to see. I check it regularly now.
Thought I posted a shot of this sitting in LW a while back.....
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
Yes you did! That was our first look at a great little ship.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Who can dig up the Norway for us!?! Those first contact ships!! ARRRGH! It's been nearly 12 and a half years!!
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Well I think the Norway CGI was lost.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
There must be a few orthographic renders around since whoever drew those schematics for the fact files must have had reference.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Exactly... I still think it is around SOMEWHERE - don't tell me only one person worked on it, on one computer and it was never ever copied to anyone else or to any other computer.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Or, they could have extrapolated the orthos from the two pictures we have, just like everyone else has.
Mark
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
No, from what I gather, the fact files only worked from primary sources, sometimes to a fault.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Yet, what about what I'm saying. I highly doubt a CGI model built for a motion picture only existed in one file on one computer and was never saved anywhere else or worked on by anyone else. Someone, somewhere has a copy of it - and the others used in FC.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Depending on what the movie industry's policy is on computer files, it could be in some hard drive or disc in ILM's archives or stored at Paramount. If it's the latter then I wouldn't be at all surprised if the original mesh was lost. Remember that Warner Bros managed to loose just about ALL of the Babylon 5 Lightwave models!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: No, from what I gather, the fact files only worked from primary sources, sometimes to a fault.
Nope- the Fact Files version has some sort of Defiant collage thing for the ventral side (which was never actually created for the movie due to the CGI model's low-res nature). It was never intended for scrutiny and so never bothered with- the downside to CGI models. we'd be far better served by getting ahold of whatever sketches were made to work from.
Seriously, that Fact Files thing bugs me no end- stretching parts of the Defiant's top view and pasting them on is a lazy ass thing to do.
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Probably was just the Fact Files people making it up, but there's always the possibility that whoever made the Norway CG model didn't have references for the underside and reused textures from the Defiant.
I remember noticing once that some sections of the Akira's textures looked like they were copied over from the Ent-E.
Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Yet, what about what I'm saying. I highly doubt a CGI model built for a motion picture only existed in one file on one computer and was never saved anywhere else or worked on by anyone else. Someone, somewhere has a copy of it - and the others used in FC.
Yes, and it's a pile of crap.
Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
quote:Originally posted by Johnny: I remember noticing once that some sections of the Akira's textures looked like they were copied over from the Ent-E.
Nope. That sort of crap is far more noticeable on the Steamrunner model. Quite amusing really.
Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
So, you´ve seen them? You have them? Share...
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
quote:Originally posted by MattC: Nope. That sort of crap is far more noticeable on the Steamrunner model. Quite amusing really.
Hehe, I knew it was one of them.
And nobody would have been any the wiser if it weren't for the giant Fact Files renders.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: No, from what I gather, the fact files only worked from primary sources, sometimes to a fault.
Nope- the Fact Files version has some sort of Defiant collage thing for the ventral side (which was never actually created for the movie due to the CGI model's low-res nature). It was never intended for scrutiny and so never bothered with- the downside to CGI models. we'd be far better served by getting ahold of whatever sketches were made to work from.
Seriously, that Fact Files thing bugs me no end- stretching parts of the Defiant's top view and pasting them on is a lazy ass thing to do.
Well ILM also did a low res (read mostly photo maped) Defiant model, yes? So it's possible someone just slapped the Defiant model's image map on the Norway's otherwise flat and featureless underside?
Actually I'm almost certain that's what happened because the underside of the Sabre's saucer has what looks like the Galaxy's bridge substructure and ILM just so happened to have a photo mapped model of the Nebula they made for Generations (for the warp effect at the end.)
That sounds more likely to me than the Fact Files just making it up. Not that I hold them in high regard or anything, I just don't credit them with that degree of imagination. Case in point, look where they've put the red/green beacons on the saucer. I'll bet you a fiver that's an artefact of the mesh lights being set away from the polys.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Will I asked Mr. Drexler yesterday in his Emette post about the Norway, and he's responded that he'll investigate.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
SWEET! Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Indeed, he's also begun asking people for what ships they'd like to know more about. As you might guess, the post is filled with requests, and a certain Mr. Bernd has compiled a list of ships with little info.
quote:Originally posted by Starship Freak: So, you´ve seen them? You have them? Share...
Sure. I've seen a lot of things. I don't really have the time to render anything right now. Unfortunately, real life dictates that I have to deal with real ships. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Woot! Sternbach replied to me! I win coolest Flarite O' The Day award- a free beer from my fridge (Sam Adams). And a cool Sternbach interview too! Turns out he's a huge Stargate fan. Smart guy.
Hmmm.....do we know who designed all the ships and such for the Stargate shows?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
That Rick Sternbach interview... it has pictures of his Voyager protoytpe... I don't think i've EVER seen a picture of it's deflector dish - and it's annoyed me for years that I haven't been able to see it - has anyone got a picture of it?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I asked for orthos and a Deflector shot- we'll see what he has.
I have several parts needed to build that model- I even have A set of orthos but I have no idea if it's accurate.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Some SS Valiant pics from the Chronology are up. Apparently it wasn't supposed to have warp nacelles, they were added later.
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) happened to be looking at his resume on his website one day, and noticed that he had built study models for the Melbourne, Kyushu, Chekov, Buran, and Ahwahnee (this was before the Wolf 359 thread). Said person posted his find on Flare, and five thousand people proceeded to email Miarecki with the exact same question: "Any photos?" He had every right to get pissed off. I just hope nobody pisses off Drexler.
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A while back a modder from Bridge Commander made an Ent-J and filled in the blanks with his own guestwork. He wasn't too far off. At least now I can disregard this other fan made Ent-J which had a ridiculous "shark fin" structure on its ventral side.
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Maybe the front of the model wasn't finished until the scene it was used in was modified for the MU episode title sequence.