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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on April 14, 2011 07:43 AM:

Has anyone seen the latest edition of the Drex Files? There's a fascinating tidbit in there. Doug found some camcorder footage that Gary Hutzel made when he brought in the Reliant model for use in "Unnatural Selection." This was the first time that the model was used since it appeared as the USS Saratoga in Star Trek IV.

There's always been some controversy about the Saratoga's registry number. It can almost be made out as the probe passes by. The Encyclopedia said that it was NCC-1937, but most other sources say NCC-1867. A few say NCC-1967.

It turns out they're ALL WRONG!

This video shows the model marked as the Saratoga, and around the 1:50 mark, you can clearly see the registry is NCC-1887. Imagine that.

http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/drextv-04-temporal-sonar/

(The video also reveals why the Lantree had no roll bar... Hutzel couldn't get its internal lights to work!)

Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on April 14, 2011 11:31 PM:

...and yet you dont mention anything about the last day of the Bunn?

and speaking of bums (SFW)

Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on April 15, 2011 02:02 AM:

I guess they never bothered to label the model Lantree either, considering it was only shot from behind. This would also explain why the Saratoga from the DS9 pilot also did not feature a rollbar, and why the Soyuz was created for TNG's "Cause and Effect".

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on April 15, 2011 02:55 AM:

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I guess they never bothered to label the model Lantree either, considering it was only shot from behind.

They did, actually:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100917184203/memoryalpha/en/images/f/fd/Miranda_Class_studio_model_dressed_as_USS_Lantree.jpg

I guess that's also why the Lantree's registry is 1837...you can clearly see where they covered up the left bit of the second "8" to make a "3."

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This would also explain why the Saratoga from the DS9 pilot also did not feature a rollbar, and why the Soyuz was created for TNG's "Cause and Effect".

And yet they restored it for the Brattain. Weird [Confused]

Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on April 15, 2011 06:25 AM:

Didn't we see the Brattain from the side? Maybe they felt from that vantage point, no one would notice it not being lit. But to be honest, looking at the ship in the TWOK, the lighting in the rollbar is minor, to the point I don't think it necessitated its removal in TNG.

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on April 15, 2011 08:19 AM:

I'm pretty sure it had a light on top of the torpedo pod.

Either way, I'm surprised the Reliant model was even used as the Brattain, requiring costly new filming for a ship that was just in one or two scenes. Considering it was acknowledged as a science vessel, and every science vessel to date in TNG was an Oberth, I'm not sure why they didn't just reuse the stock footage of the Cochrane.

BTW, the original page for the SWDAO is no more...does anyone still have the original list?

Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on April 15, 2011 01:59 PM:

I honestly have no idea why trivial little things like this excite me so much, but yet...they do!! [Cool]

Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on April 15, 2011 07:43 PM:

*summon Aethelwer*

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on July 17, 2012 04:20 AM:

Oh, hey. Sorry I'm late.

Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on July 26, 2012 12:26 PM:

Was the rollbar auctioned off with the Reliant model? I cant recall...
Man, that would be cool to have mounted on a wall, wouldn't it?

Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on July 26, 2012 01:25 PM:

Wall? Please, you'd mount it as your headboard.

Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on July 27, 2012 11:12 AM:

As he spoiler of my Impala! [Big Grin]