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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dukhat</b> <br /><small>Member # 341</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,1,4,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 01, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:33 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> After almost 30 years, we've finally uncovered the last kitbashed model used in "Best of Both Worlds' Pt. II!" Click the imagebam link for more pics. Hopefully Eaglemoss will get on this soon! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /><br /> <img src="http://images2.imagebam.com/0d/2b/ec/6fd1c11180734074.JPG" alt=" - " /><br /><br /> <a href="http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/omqxm5llgw1udvx5vlp7h7olcivbr52f" target="_blank">http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/omqxm5llgw1udvx5vlp7h7olcivbr52f</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,1,12,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 01, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:11 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> ....Shit, you almost had me, Mark. I was starting to get angry about rewrites & having to figure out justifications. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Brown_supahero</b> <br /><small>Member # 83</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,2,15,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 02, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:58 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> My gaawd... what would Leo say? I wish I’ve seen this before noon yesterday, great trolling material. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Guardian 2000</b> <br /><small>Member # 743</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,2,16,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 02, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:40 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Kidding aside, perhaps there should be as many Rigel classes as their are Rigels in Trek. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lee</b> <br /><small>Member # 393</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,4,22,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 04, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:53 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> This is my favourite kitbash ever. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,7,2,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 07, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:20 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Now that I look at this more, I have questions about such a design. Six impulse decks. Six shuttlebays. What purpose could there be for so mamy? Interhull transit, how is it accomplished? Turboshafts through the nacelle seems to me a very poor idea. The escape pods on the inner saucer surfaces, wouldn't they all eject & crash into each other? The mind boggles, you see.<br /><br />Would fit right into Discofleet, no problem, though. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dukhat</b> <br /><small>Member # 341</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,10,3,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 10, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:50 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> So here's the story on this model.<br /><br />Back in the early 2000's when the 'Wolf 359 research' was going on, one of the contributors was a guy named Markus Nee. Here's his website, although it hasn't been updated in 17 years:<br /><br /> <a href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~markusn/models/starships/index.html" target="_blank">http://www-personal.umich.edu/~markusn/models/starships/index.html</a> <br /><br />Anyway, Markus mentioned that he was in the same modeling club as Ed Miarecki, who built the BoBW kitbashes. Markus even said that on several occasions he'd even go over to Miarecki's house, where he saw the construction of some of the kitbashes first-hand. I once had asked him if he'd seen any other models that never made it to the 'fleet' of study models that Miarecki made for Okuda. Markus told me that he did indeed see an unfinished model, which he described as "two Enterprise-D saucers stacked on top of each other, with nacelles in between, like the Federation version of the Romulan warbird." (Paraphrasing here.) <br /><br />That was the extent of his description to me, and I assumed that he specifically meant the model was made from two large 1/1400 Enterprise-D saucers and two 1/1400 nacelles on either side between the saucers, to mimic the look of the warbird. <br /><br />However, apparently Markus later gave a more specific description to someone else who posted a diagram on his now-defunct blog: That the model was in fact made from two smaller 1/2500 Enterprise-D saucers, with only one larger 1/1400 nacelle in between them: <br /><br /> <a href="http://shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/superscout_cerebus.jpg" target="_blank">http://shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/superscout_cerebus.jpg</a> <br /><br />Again, this diagram was just made by the blogger, not Markus, so it's unknown whether the proportions were correct. Obviously I decided to place the nacelle closer to the inside of the saucer to make a more compact ship, and then added the larger bridge dome, captain's yacht and shuttlebay doors from the 1/1400 model to scale the ship down to the same size as the Chekov, Ahwahnee, etc. I didn't want to actually cut into the model to create battle damage so I added 'scorch marks' by mixing black paint with water and dousing the model with it. The name and registry decals were custom-made and were not cheap. <br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Guardian 2000:<br /><strong> Kidding aside, perhaps there should be as many Rigel classes as their are Rigels in Trek. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree, and I'm also in the process of building another Rigel class starship, this time how I originally envisioned it: with the two large saucers and two nacelles on the sides. I made a connecting tower between the two saucers from a side part from a Millennium Falcon model (which was kitbashed into the ship seen in the movie "Zapped!"...I'll be posting pics of that here and on the TrekBBS soon.) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Guardian 2000</b> <br /><small>Member # 743</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,10,4,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 10, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:56 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Y'know, I really dig this design and the 2001 reference, even though I hate full-name ships. <br /><br /> <a href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~markusn/models/starships/uss_floyd/" target="_blank">http://www-personal.umich.edu/~markusn/models/starships/uss_floyd/</a> <br /><br />As for you, young man . . . you are evil, and the name "Dukhat" is well-deserved. ;-)<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Would fit right into Discofleet, no problem, though. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, it's too close to existing canon, and pre-STFC design specifically. Where are the blocky, unnecesaarily angular bits? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lee</b> <br /><small>Member # 393</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,11,21,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 11, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:07 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I think it's gorgeous. But then I'm the brains behind the <i>Baywatch</i>-class, so... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Krenim</b> <br /><small>Member # 22</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,11,23,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 11, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:23 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Guardian 2000:<br /><strong>As for you, young man . . . you are evil, and the name "Dukhat" is well-deserved. ;-)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You have mistaken a Babylon 5 reference for a Star Trek reference. Epic fail, man. EPIC FAIL.<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Guardian 2000</b> <br /><small>Member # 743</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,12,13,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 12, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:32 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Babylon what? Is that one of those dime-a-dozen cheap Trek rip-offs from the early 90's? ;-)<br /><br />Hey, as many people as there are who misspell the Cardie's name, I was just going with it. But seriously, drop the H, you evil, evil man. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dukhat</b> <br /><small>Member # 341</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,12,14,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 12, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:21 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> This BBS is so old, I wouldn’t even know how to change my username. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2019,3,13,17,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 13, 2019</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:28 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Y'know what, Dukkie? I'm super tempted to rewrite eveything I wrote about the Rigel-class & actually make this the design. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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