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Reverend
Member # 335
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Got a little bored so I decided to have a bash at some dedication plaques.
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Ritten
Member # 417
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2, number 2.....
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Sarvek
Member # 910
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Truly awesome work!! I am always amazed by your artwork. Keep it up.
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Thought I might aswell make it a full set for the Valiant
*Warning* Class and launch site are conjectural.
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Thinking in funny directions tonight. A possible explanation of the "RT" series of space vehicles, one of which is on the "Up the Long Ladder" list.
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Ritten
Member # 417
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Does it make a funny buzzing noise???
Oh, that's not a white chocolate ship???
My mistake...
Nice work though...
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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Going by my conjectural idea that All the various Antares Class ships are of the SUPERCLASS Antares - you could change that above to U.S.S. Antares Antares Class
Like U.S.S. Enterprise Starship Class. Where all STARSHIP is a SUPERCLASS. Antares Class vessels may all be cargo type vessels of some sort. And not referring to their configuration, which as we've seen are all different.
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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Oh, BTW... NICE WORK!
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Well I generally go by the assumption that this is Starfleet's Antares-Class and that all the other alien freighters are unrelated ships built by a civilian ship yard or company.
FYI, here are a bunch of quotes from "Charlie X" which show that (among other things) the Antares was refered to as being more than just a freighter or transport.
quote: Quotes compiled by Ryan McReynolds --From the opening captain's log: "Now maneuvering to come alongside cargo vessel Antares." --And here's the ultimate proof, that I'd even forgotten! Kirk mentions that the Enterprise has a lot of entertainment for the Antares crew, if they wish. Captain Ramart responds, "No, we have a tight schedule to make, Captain. Just 20 of us; we're making out fine." There it is, definitively: the U.S.S. Antares had a crew of 20. --Kirk jokes about the rarity of a "transport ship" not needing anything, even Saurian brandy. --Charlie is dumbfounded when Yeoman Rand arrives to escort him, asking her, "A-are you a girl?" There were no women aboard the Antares. --After Charlie destroys the ship, Kirk's log reads, "UESPA headquarters notified of the mysterious loss of science probe vessel Antares." --Kirk considers the situation over a game of chess with Spock. "A survey ship with 20 men aboard, lost." And that, as they say, is that. The Antares is a cargo/transport/science probe/survey ship with a crew of 20. =) Ryan
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Sarvek
Member # 910
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Thank you for that bit of information. I had always wondered about the Antares. Reverend, your Antares is the best that I have ever seen. How is the refit coming along?
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Slowly.
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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Assuming that the bridge and nacelles are of the same dimensions as the Constitution class... that is one big ship for a crew of 20!
Apart from the Science Probe line - the rest fit into the Cargo-ish/Transport-ish line which is what most of the TNG Antares ships have been.
Andrew
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CaptainMike XXIII
Member # 709
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yeah, how come every ship has to be a Constitution kitbash? a small ship probably has smaller components.
BTW, to the ASDB guys.. 'Maitanance'?!.. apparently Starfleet's logo designers don't have spell-check
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Reverend
Member # 335
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quote: We have finally settled on the Concordance Antares, refined and rescaled by Kris. The ship's saucer and nacelles are similar in their appearance to the Constitution class. Yet, they are not simply scaled down, as there are considerable detail changes.
quote: AndrewR: Apart from the Science Probe line - the rest fit into the Cargo-ish/Transport-ish line which is what most of the TNG Antares ships have been.
None of which were starfleet vessels, save the Hermes which was never seen. Hence the conclusion that Starfleet has it's own Antares-Class that has nothing to do with the various civilian freighters that have been seen. All of this is laid out on the Antares page, I think Bernd has been quite thorough.
Oh and yes, that is a typo on the Proxima badge.
As for the size of the Antares, I believe this shows the approximate scale. While a crew of 20 is certainly small it should be adequate to run a ship when most of the internal volume is given away to cargo bays, science equipment and guest accommodation.
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AndrewR
Member # 44
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quote: None of which were starfleet vessels, save the Hermes which was never seen. Hence the conclusion that Starfleet has it's own Antares-Class that has nothing to do with the various civilian freighters that have been seen. All of this is laid out on the Antares page, I think Bernd has been quite thorough.
Ahh, I see know what you were all getting at in that Antares thread a while back. Nicely summarised.
So the other ships are 'Antares class' - cause the translation to English is also Antares (i.e. they named it after that same star)?
Andrew
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Basically yeah. Civilian shipping firms and ship builders can name their vessels whatever they want, it doesn't effect any other fleet's Class designations. Infact there might even be several Enterprises and Yorktowns flying around under civilian companies, it's not like Starfleet would have the monopoly on ship names, ,which is as good an explanation as any for the TMP ringship.
Infact I proposed that maybe all the non-Starfleet Antares class ships actually come from a company based in the Antares system (I even did a logo for them), however give that Antares is several thousand light years away (I think) that would be a little far fetched...unless the Antarians are a particulary widespread and fairly advanced race who just like enjoy selling rusty old freighters to all kinds of people across the galaxy.
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Oh and here's a slightly better plaque for the Valiant.
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The_Tom
Member # 38
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It's too advanced, man! The Enterprise in TOS didn't have logos on the plaque, those only came with movie technology. Besides, aside from the logo, you're basically just ripping off what they did in TOS. Show some originality and stop pissing on Roddenberry's grave and rewriting canon.
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Sol System
Member # 30
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The board is awash with recursion and self-reference tonight, I see.
Reverend: I think it might look better if Montana wasn't abbreviated. (Or, perhaps, was represented by its two-letter postal code, but that seems a bit unlikely.) Maybe make it just a little taller, or shrink the font for that line a bit more?
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Reverend
Member # 335
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quote: It's too advanced, man! The Enterprise in TOS didn't have logos on the plaque, those only came with movie technology.
Of course, embossing is a highly advanced technique that couldn't possibly be done until the late 23rd century.
quote: Besides, aside from the logo, you're basically just ripping off what they did in TOS.
It's called continuity.
quote: Show some originality and stop pissing on Roddenberry's grave and rewriting canon.
Bite me.
quote: Reverend: I think it might look better if Montana wasn't abbreviated. (Or, perhaps, was represented by its two-letter postal code, but that seems a bit unlikely.) Maybe make it just a little taller, or shrink the font for that line a bit more?
I'll have a go, see how it looks.
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Solommagnus de Pym
Member # 239
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Tom's wit: ->>-------->
Reverend's head:
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Sarvek
Member # 910
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Keep up the great work Reverend. I can not wait to see what you will do next.
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Masao
Member # 232
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Two comments: 1. I agree that you should probably abbreviate Montana as MT. 2. The shadowing you've used on the Hermes plaque makes it look as if the letters are floating without a connection to the base. This is especially noticable at the bottom points of the delta and the serifs and thin sections (top of the s) of some letters.
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