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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [QB] Current evidence sort of suggests they are natives to either Romulus or Remus, merely enslaved by the newcomer Vulcanoids. Since they hated slavery so much, it's hard to tell if they hated Remus, too. From their vampirelike habitus, though, one would think Remus would be heaven to them, and Romulus would be hell. So my bet is for them to be the native inhabitants of Remus before the Romulans came. [QUOTE]Here's aquestion on the Charts book- Why is Icobar right next to Iconia? [/QUOTE]Blame Mandel, not me. I never even thought that Iccobar was a planet: from the way it's used in "Contagion", it sounded more like a language, possibly spoken on a number of planets, perhaps on none. However, it sounds as if the Iconians were fairly local players in the end. Bombardment of a single world seemed to collapse their reign. Perhaps they merely [i]went[/i] to places, like the Sikarians, and never really [i]established[/i] themselves at places, like actual galactic empires do? This would fit with having the "relic languages" spoken in places close to the actual planet Iconia. Also, if Iconia was a relatively puny entity, it would then follow that those who defeated it were no giants, either. They'd leave little heritage themselves, and the expansion of the Romulans would quickly make the territory inaccessible to archaeology. Quite possibly, all the clues lay on the Romulan side of the RNZ, making them off limits to meddling outsiders for the past couple of hundred years - and perhaps for the past two thousand years, too, depending on how territorial the Romulans were back then. As for why nobody found the place [i]before[/i] the Romulans claimed the turf, I'll just speculate that the destroyers of Iconia were themselves destroyed so utterly that a major archaeological effort on top of a major archival dig would be required to verify even the existence of Iconia, let alone its location. It's not as if anybody found much of the Tkon, either... Timo Saloniemi [/QB][/QUOTE]
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