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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Katana</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,16,4,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:25 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> They look a bit like RW's<P> <IMG SRC="http://gatecommand.virtualave.net/cardbat.jpg"> <BR> <IMG SRC="http://gatecommand.virtualave.net/cardie1.jpg"> <P>------------------<BR>*Engage lurking field.*<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> <br /><small>Member # 6</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,16,5,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:21 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> They are RW's, but they seem to have been altered. I remember RW posted the ships on a white background.<P>I was curious and looked them up on his site:<BR> <A HREF="http://www.xs4all.nl/~warrink/startrek/rutger/oldcardie.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.xs4all.nl/~warrink/startrek/rutger/oldcardie.jpg</A> <BR> <A HREF="http://www.xs4all.nl/~warrink/startrek/rutger/cardbat.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.xs4all.nl/~warrink/startrek/rutger/cardbat.jpg</A> <P>Notice the slight modfications?<P>------------------<BR>*Obscure humorous pretentious Gaelic-Latin signature*<BR><A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>Ex Asterige Scientia</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Katana</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,16,13,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:31 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Thanks, It's just I saw them being offered to someone who was not RW (I think) to someone who is creating a Trek game ... I was wondering if RW was ok with this.<P>------------------<BR>*Engage lurking field.*<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>First of Two</b> <br /><small>Member # 16</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,16,14,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Looks pretty darned similar to me.. <P>Far too close to be a coincidence. Even an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of computers couldn't do that.<P>RW I found irksome, but nobody should be allowed to swipe his ships.<P>Find the source. Identify. Classify and clarify. <BR> 10 Set X$ = $RW<BR> 20 Get Y$<BR> 30 If Y$ = X$ then goto 60<BR> 40 Else Goto 50<BR> 50 Run Program = die scurvy dog<BR> 60 End<P>------------------<BR>"We shall not yield to you, nor to any man." -- Freak, The Mighty.<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aethelwer</b> <br /><small>Member # 36</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,16,15,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:43 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> #include <iostream.h><P>int main(void) {<BR> string x="RW";<BR> string y=PosterName();<BR> if {y==x) {<BR> }<BR> else {<BR> DieScurvyDog();<BR> }<BR> return(0);<BR>}<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>Frank's Home Page</A> - free pencil with every armadillo!<P>[This message has been edited by The Shadow (edited September 16, 1999).]<p>[This message has been edited by The Shadow (edited September 16, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Pedro</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,16,17,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> This is Rob Caves model of RW's ship (he used RW's pix as textures). Rob credited RW when he first posted them at Scifi-art. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Gaseous Anomaly</b> <br /><small>Member # 114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,17,15,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:53 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Curiosity, gents: what languages are you using?<P>First: looks like Assembly or something suchlike.<BR>Frank: either C or Fortran?<P>*Has to wait until college computers return from their holidays, then woe betide the plagarisers...*<P><P>------------------<BR>The unexplained phenomenon that crippled the U.S.S. Unimpeachable -- <BR>Gaseous Anomaly...<BR>What anomalises gaseously.<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Aethelwer</b> <br /><small>Member # 36</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,17,17,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:14 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> First of Two is using Basic. I'm using C++, although no C++ specific code besides #include <iostream.h> instead of #include <stdio.h>.<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>Frank's Home Page</A> - free pencil with every armadillo! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>First of Two</b> <br /><small>Member # 16</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,17,19,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 17, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:58 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> And my BASIC's a bit rusty, so probably what I posted wouldn't work, anyway.<P>OKay, what we have here is a permitted re-doing of an artist's design, with very little modification done and credit justly given...<P>But was credit given by whoever has those pictures now, and was offering them for use?<P>Some people just might be a bit annoyed at that. F'rinstance, if I had permission to use the Sentinel, but gave a modified version to someone else to use, I'd think that was bad, and I'd think the designer would think so too.<P>Not saying that's what's happened. It's also possible somebody ripped the modified versions off and is presenting them as his own work, OR...<P>This could all be being done on the up-and-up, and RW knows.<P>Place yer bets... <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR>"We shall not yield to you, nor to any man." -- Freak, The Mighty.<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Gaseous Anomaly</b> <br /><small>Member # 114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,20,13,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 20, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:57 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Thanks boys.<BR>I was programming in C in my first year, and the old "hash-include" never failed to raise a titter. Which reminds me...oh yeah, that's the one.<P>I was subjected to six sessions of Fortran77 in second year, which I despise to this day. I honestly prefered writing in machine code.<P>And this year, they're upping the ante to Visual Basic. Yipee! Roll on the swivel chairs!<P>*Looks @ Bernd's links for the first time*<BR>OH COME ON! They're RW's, no question -- the modifications are so measly it's laughable -- oh oh look they're rotated 90 degrees => they're mine.<P>I dearly hope RW is fully aware of this. I've a felling he is, despite my rant. How about telling us, RW? Eh? Eh? Ah go on. You will.<P>------------------<BR>The unexplained phenomenon that crippled the U.S.S. Unimpeachable -- <BR>Gaseous Anomaly...<BR>What anomalises gaseously.<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sunspot</b> <br /><small>Member # 77</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,8,20,16,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 20, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:43 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> As was said already, these are 3D meshes based on RW's ships, with credit given. I am sure that Rob Caves got permission...unless he was DrBob... *shrug*<P>------------------<BR>�T� eres que lo como! <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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