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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

Okay, so it isn't about phasers, after all. I'm still working on that one.

VIVA LAS VEGAS' legal department speaks: Rules of Engagement and Laws of Armed Conflict for Federation forces.

--Baloo

[What? I can't do something besides starships now and again?]

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Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :

If you want to really make it realistic, you should get a hold of the Geneva Conventions. It's pretty detailed and covers everything about LOAC. Just change it for Star Trek.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Er...I'm pretty sure Baloo HAS read said documents.

At any rate, a fascinating read, Baloo. I really enjoy this sort of fandom theorizing. If I might pick a few nits, however...

I'm not sure the Klingons have anything equivilant to POW camps. At least, not for captured soldiers. The Klingons have a few taboos against that sort of thing. However, perhaps they do have some sort of "Non-combatant Detainee Camps" or some such. If you see what I'm getting at. It's really just a minor point, though.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

Very interesting. As this is supposed to be rather easy-to-read guidelines for Starfleet than a legal text, I like the format. Maybe you could nevertheless think of a more formal version for the future.

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

Sol System is correct. I have read the relevant documents. (They aren't very easy to find, but there sure are a lot of them!)

Bernd: A good writer writes what he knows.

Every year for the past 20 years I have had the "pleasure" of sitting through a Laws of Armed Conflict briefing. I just figured that Starfleet would probably have a similar requirement. Also, I think the fans probably need a reminder that, "Section 31" notwithstanding, the Federation is based on law and justice, not "might makes right".

The briefing was written with the understanding that it would be a standard briefing for Starfleet personnel. I would presume that the Klingons would not call a prisoner-of-war camp by that name, but would probably be bound by treaty (at least with the Federation) to treat captured personnel according to some agreed-upon guidelines.

It would be hard to imagine the current, "honorable" Klingons bombing a holy site just for the hell of it or, cowardly, hiding extra munitions in a hospital. It would disgrace a warrior to slay the helpless, the feeble, or those unable to further resist in combat. I suggest that the Klingons can distinguish the difference between a duel of honor and a military operation, and act accordingly.

--Baloo

P.S.: If someone thinks they can write the same sort of document as written from the Klingon perspective, I would be interested in seeing it, and might post it at VLV (with credit appropriately given to the source) if asked to do so.

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[This message has been edited by Baloo (edited March 03, 2000).]

Posted by Fructose (Member # 309) on :

Oh, sorry. Nevermind my mindless babbling. Sometimes I just go on about things....