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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,3,0,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:50 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> There's a contest going on in another forum. The challenge is to do the X-33 shuttle replacement. I went a little farther than the explicit instructions. The following is an X-33 based design for an interstellar explorer, the Cochrane Interstellar Explorer (CIE) 07:<P><center><IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/CIE07.gif" width=640 height=480></center><P>--Baloo<P>------------------<BR>"Tourist comes into town, big seafood buff.<BR>He gets into a cab, asks the driver, "Where can I get scrod?"<BR>Cabbie turns around, looks at him. "Bud," he says, "I've been asked that many times, many ways. But that's the first time I ever heard it asked for in the pluperfect subjunctive."<BR>-- Old Joke<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/</A> <P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,3,3,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:28 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Baloo, can I just say that I think that your art work, especially your colouring/shading is getting much better and looking quite spiffy!<P>Keep it up... the art work I mean...<P>*looks around*<P>*backs out quickly*<P> <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/biggrin.gif"><BR>------------------<BR>"Who wouldn't be the one you love <BR> Who wouldn't stand inside your love." - <I>Stand Inside Your Love</I>, The Smashing Pumpkins<p>[This message has been edited by AndrewR (edited April 03, 2000).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> <br /><small>Member # 6</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,3,5,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:13 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Hey, that's really awesome. Like a micromachine I would like to grab from the screen.<P>Cochrane? So it's supposed to have warp drive already, or an allusion to the future?<P>------------------<BR>"Species 5618, human. Warp-capable, origin grid 325, physiology inefficient, below average cranium capacity, minimum redundant systems, limited regenerative abilities."<BR><A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>Ex Astris Scientia</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,3,12,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:03 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, it says it's "interstellar", and it's post-<i>Valiant</i>, so I'd say that puts it in the warp era...<P>------------------<BR>"Good. I'll look forward to your report, Mr. Broccoli."<BR>-Capt. Jean-Luc Picard, TNG: "Hollow Pursuits" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,3,14,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *And* it has warp nacelles!<P>------------------<BR><I>"When You're Up to Your Ass in Alligators, Today Is the First Day of the Rest of Your Life."</I><BR>-- Management slogan, Ridcully-style (Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent, Discworld)<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><A HREF="http://www.prakesh.f2s.com" TARGET=_blank>Prakesh's Star Trek Site</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,3,19,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:49 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I still haven't started a description for it. It's supposed to be a commercial venture by Cochrane, Inc. rather than a UESPA design. It's designed to take off and land horizontally when there is a large enough landing strip available, but also has VTOL capability for landing on (and taking off from) planets without commercial airports.<P>The "impulse engine" is a linear aerospike that uses laser ignition of a working fluid such as liquid H<sub>2</sub>O, ammonia, or even liquid hydrogen to provide thrust. Power for the impulse, auxiliary VTOL engines, and warp drives comes from a high-efficiency fusion powerplant.<P>It's designed to be cheap to operate, easy to repair, and rugged. It isn't very roomy, however. I haven't figured out the dimensions of the cockpit, crew accommodations, and cargo compartment, but the combined space is probably about the size of a small camping trailer (perhaps the size of a postal delivery van or an English milk float, if the latter is the size I think it is). I still haven't thought out all the details (for example, the bussards may turn out to be retractable -- I think they'd interfere with proper control during the aerodynamic stages of an atmospheric reentry).<P>--Baloo<P>------------------<BR>"Tourist comes into town, big seafood buff.<BR>He gets into a cab, asks the driver, "Where can I get scrod?"<BR>Cabbie turns around, looks at him. "Bud," he says, "I've been asked that many times, many ways. But that's the first time I ever heard it asked for in the pluperfect subjunctive."<BR>-- Old Joke<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/</A> <P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,5,0,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 05, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:06 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, it isn't an explorer (at least not exclusively anymore), and it's twice as large as originally planned. Here's the description: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/CIE07.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/CIE07.htm</A> <P>--Baloo<P>------------------<BR>"Tourist comes into town, big seafood buff.<BR>He gets into a cab, asks the driver, "Where can I get scrod?"<BR>Cabbie turns around, looks at him. "Bud," he says, "I've been asked that many times, many ways. But that's the first time I ever heard it asked for in the pluperfect subjunctive."<BR>-- Old Joke<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/</A> <P><p>[This message has been edited by Baloo (edited April 05, 2000).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> <br /><small>Member # 6</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,5,5,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 05, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:58 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I see. I read X-33 and saw the design looked similar, and this is why I rather thought this would belong to the pre-warp era. However, aerodynamic considerations are still valid for a warp ship, so you get a "go" from me on this one. <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/wink.gif"><P>------------------<BR>"Species 5618, human. Warp-capable, origin grid 325, physiology inefficient, below average cranium capacity, minimum redundant systems, limited regenerative abilities."<BR><A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>Ex Astris Scientia</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> <br /><small>Member # 15</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,9,21,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 09, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:44 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Very cool. Except the right and front views kind of nullify the ultimate coolness of the top view. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> <br /><small>Member # 5</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,3,9,22,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 09, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yeah, well... I agree that those views look kind of klunky, but that's the way the <I>real</I> X-33 looks in those views (minus the nacelles, of course). I was going for accuracy, even if it offended my sensibilities. Now that I've got the basic design done, I may eventually work out a larger, slimmer vessel than that one.<P>--Baloo<P>------------------<BR>"Just because you know you're right doesn't mean you are."<BR>-- Me<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/</A> <P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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