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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,1,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:58 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I've made a videotutorial where i show (or better draw) you how to draw a "Constitution class" like saucersection using "Corel Draw 10".<br />I know many here know how to use vectorgraphics programs, but for those who don't maybe they can take a look. <br /><br /> <img src="http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/saucer1.jpg" alt=" - " /> <br /><br />And here the Videofile (it's about 25 min. long. The filesize is 7,5 MB with good quality)<br /> <a href="http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/tutorial.wmv" target="_blank">http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/tutorial.wmv</a> (Note:Please save it with "Rightclick, Save as...")<br />I hope you like it.<br /><br />Lobo <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Kazeite</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,6,12,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:12 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Thank you very much for this tutorial.<br /><br />(Not that I actually need it, but I definitely aprecciate the effort. Good work. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> ) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,6,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:44 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Nice to see how other people use the same tools. The only significant difference between your style and mine is that you don't seem to use PowerClip.<br /><br />I usually don't bother with making gridlines <i>exactly</i> the right width, but just make them long enough and PowerClip them into the hull shape. The same goes for the bridge 'ceiling light'. I just draw a rectangle, make it yellow-ish, and Powerclip it into the bridge dome. Always fits <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />How did you make that movie? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,6,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:50 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Kazeite:<br /><strong> Thank you very much for this tutorial.<br /><br />(Not that I actually need it, but I definitely aprecciate the effort. Good work. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> ) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually i wanted to see if there is a demand for such tutorials. This is not really a tutorial, more a test. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br />I've just drawn something (in this case a saucer).<br /><br />Edit: BTW I don't draw/design starships anymore, but I want to give other people the opportunity to create ships in that way. If you have any requests what you want to see ...let me know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,6,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:53 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Harry:<br /><strong> Nice to see how other people use the same tools. The only significant difference between your style and mine is that you don't seem to use PowerClip.<br /><br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What is PowerClip? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />I used Camtasia to record that movie. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,7,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:11 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Mini tutorial:<br /><br />1) Draw 2 shapes.<br /><br />2) Drag one of the shapes on top of the other, with your <i>right</i> mouse-button. You get a Copy X Here.. context menu. There's also a 'Powerclip Inside' option. If you click on that, the 2nd shape will be clipped inside the other.<br /><br />Powerclip Inside automagically centers the object inside the other one, but this can be turned off somewhere. If you CTRL+Click on a Powerclip object, you can edit the contents of that Powerclip, ie you go a level 'deeper'.<br /><br />I also use this tool to sort of group objects together. I usually powerclip the windows and other hull details inside the hull itself, so it really behaves like 1 object. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,7,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:33 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ohh it works...thanks...ehh i mean...of course i know powerclip...*g* <br />kidding. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,10,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:52 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Oh i forgot Corel Draw is maybe not a common graphics program and not everybody can afford such a graphics suite like Corel or Adobe... So feel free to tell me some freeware (or free trail) vector graphics programs i could use to make tutorials.<br /><br />Or i make a tutorial for 3 most common graphics suite (like CD, Illustrator...)<br /><br />But we also could use Paint <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ...maybe I should make a tutorial for it...yes I should..<br /><br />Oh and btw., for the next (real) tutorials I will put in some text and infos (if you need to press a key on the keybord or so...) in the tutorial. <br /><br />Lobo <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,11,12,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:12 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Got anything on Illustrator?<br /><br />Thanks for the thoughtful idea, BTW. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,14,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:39 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Got anything on Illustrator?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am working on.<br /><br />BTW. If you use Mozilla or any other Non Micr-O-soft ( Shame on you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> ) Browser to download the movie it probably dosen't work. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,15,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:28 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I don't see why that would be true. It worked fine for me. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,15,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:30 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Didn't work for me. It claimed it was finished after zero seconds. So I used GetRight... or whatever the hell it's called... let's see... FlashGet. I used FlashGet. Hoorah. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,16,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:39 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TSN:<br /><strong> I don't see why that would be true. It worked fine for me. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's cause someone told me that the download don't work (he uses firefox) and I tested it with Mozilla and all I've got was just a 10 kb HTML file instead the movie. :/<br /><br />But if it works for you...good. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,2,19,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 02, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:48 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Here are the orignal Files of the saucer.<br /> <img src="http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer2.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /><br />For Adobe Illustrator (don't know if it works):<br /><a href="http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer.ai" target="_blank">http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer.ai</a><br />For Corel Draw 8:<br /><a href="http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer_CD_8.cdr" target="_blank">http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer_CD_8.cdr</a><br />For Corel Draw 9:<br /><a href="http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer_CD_9.cdr" target="_blank">http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer_CD_9.cdr</a><br />For Corel Draw 10:<br /><a href="http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer.cdr" target="_blank">http://mitglied.lycos.de/MrBrown5/Tutorial/saucer.cdr</a><br /><br />For each tutorial i will release the original files.<br /><br />Lobo <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Kazeite</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,3,4,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 03, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:26 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I don't think you need to include files for every single version of Corel Draw. Newer version can read the files created by older version, you know. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />(Unless, of course, there's some difference in drawing them that I'm not aware of 8)) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,3,6,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 03, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:50 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes, but someone who has CD 8 can't import CD 9 files ....i guess. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,3,7,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 03, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:29 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Not to be picky (as you're graciously donating your skills and time for our benifit) but the saucer's upper decks nad rridge look incorrect.<br /><br />Cool in a "Phase II" kinda way though! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Lobo</b> <br /><small>Member # 669</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2004,8,3,8,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 03, 2004</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:38 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Yes, sure the saucer maybe dosen't look like a real Trek saucer but I want to show how to work with Vectorgraphics Progams not "How to design a professional Trek TOS-Saucersection" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . <br /><br />I've just drawn it without any reference pictures. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />It looks like a TOS-TMP crossover Enterprise saucer. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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