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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Krenim</b> <br /><small>Member # 22</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,25,14,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:43 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <i>Alrighty, folks, color me confused.<br /><br />I've made no secret of the fact that (say it with me now) I am not a ship guy. I had to dive deep into the depths of the UP3 forum to fish out Bernd's Wolf 359 ships write-ups, and the way it seems to be formatted, the "Quad-Nacelle" ship and the Rigel seem to be seperate classes. However, the "Quad-Nacelle" folder I have has two diagrams that are labelled as the Rigel, and this ship does appear to have four-nacelles.<br /><br />Are the "Quad-Nacelle" and Rigel the same? Heck if I know. The Rigel info (right next to the "Quad-Nacelle" info in Bernd's write-up, adding to my confusion) is included for completeness. Since nobody's been responding to the UP3 threads lately, maybe this is just the thing to spark some debate.<br /><br />Or maybe I'm just the only person here who doesn't know the answer to this.<br /><br />Whichever.<br /><br />Anyway, write-up by Bernd with diagrams by TSN. Enjoy.</i><br /><br />Quad-nacelled ship<br />In BoBW as well as TNG: "Unification" a four-nacelled ship can be seen, neither of which seems to be the Cheyenne class. The ship is almost definitely another Excelsior study model of three or four to exist. The ship features four nacelles, a long (possibly telescopic) horizonal connection structure. It is interesting that the ship apparently uses a saucer from AMT's Enterprise-refit kit and yet another variant of the Oberth-like nacelles. According to Michael Okuda, the ship is hanging from the ceiling in the DS9 art department.<br /><br />Known quad-nacelled ships:<br />No name or registry known<br /><br />Occurences:<br />TNG: "Best of Both Worlds, part II"<br />TNG: "Unification, part II"<br /><br />Note:<br />The model was labeled "U.S.S. Alka-selsior NCC-2000". We prefer to ignore that.<br /><br /><br />Rigel<br />According to Mike Okuda the Rigel-class Tolstoy was probably not on screen at all, but later inserted in to the dialogue. Previous fan descriptions of the Rigel as a three-nacelled Galaxy kitbash obviously referred to what is actually the Niagara.<br /><br />Known Rigel-class ships:<br />U.S.S. Tolstoy NCC-62095, TNG: "Best of Both Worlds, part II"<br /><br /><i>Available pictures: (<a href="http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/22/Rigel1.png" target="_blank">1</a>) (<a href="http://flareupload.pleh.net/uploads/22/Rigel2.jpg" target="_blank">2</a>)</i><br /> <br /> <small>[ October 25, 2005, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Krenim ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Captain Boh</b> <br /><small>Member # 1282</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,25,15,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:46 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> First picture does appear to be the four nacelled Excelsior prototype, second one 404s <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Krenim</b> <br /><small>Member # 22</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,25,16,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Captain Boh:<br /><strong> First picture does appear to be the four nacelled Excelsior prototype, second one 404s </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fixed. Sorry about that. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,25,16,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">October 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:38 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I named the diagrams thus because I have a theory (or, at least, had a theory; I haven't thought about it recently) that this ship should be called the <i>Rigel</i> class. Something to do with it being on the screen when the <i>Tolstoy</i> is mentioned? Or was supposed to be mentioned? Was that the one that they cut out, or something? I really don't remember.<br /><br />Regardless, the "four-nacelled <i>Excelsior</i> study model = <i>Rigel</i>" idea was mine. That's what cause your confusion. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,10,5,1,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 05, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:34 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Waaaay back in the day, Lobo made a purdy 'lil TNG era ship we called the Rigel class and I made a model of it and everything.<br /><br />Andrew even photoshopped a pic or two of it.<br /><br />Thus, I'd rather the four nacelled thing be the Merced or something else.<br />The diagram is not real accurate for the excelsior study model- it should be much longer (though it looks better shortened). <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,10,5,11,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 05, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:01 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, I was drawing it from scratch with a single reference photo... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jason Abbadon</b> <br /><small>Member # 882</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,10,11,22,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">November 11, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:51 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It's not bad <i>at all</i>- far more practical than the model, really. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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