Since you guys seem to be allergic to the Trek BBS, I'm posting this pic, which was released over there about a month ago.
This the cover for the third book in the Vanguard series "Reap the Whirlwind" by David Mack. The ship is the USS Sagittarius, an Archer-class scout attached to the Vanguard station. I had only a month to design her inside and out, so based her on my previous USS Paris. However, it's much smaller, at about 50 m, and fits the description in the first Vanguard book. The render is by Doug Drexler. The book is coming out next August, I think.
This is the semiofficial insignia for the Vanguard station, designed by series editor Marco Palmieri and redrawn by me. Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
That is AWSOME!
I'm not allergic. I lurk there. Mainly in the art forum. I enjoy their monthly contests.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
I saw that as well, but for some reason I was under the impression it was a "fan" art, and not linked to the book. You designed her insides as well? I'd like to see that, too. Can't comment too much on the design, since like you said it was a much smaller redesign of one of your existing ships. Would be interesting to see a size reference, though.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Interesting design for a small craft... is that supposed to be just a one-deck ship, with equipment in the bulges on the top and bottom? Kind of a space-only (i.e. non-atmospheric) super-runabout?
Posted by Makotokat (Member # 1041) on :
I thought she was designed to land....
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
1: What is that thing in the lower right corner?
2: I'm not one for looking horses in mouths, but why so small a pic? With like 500Kb I could crunch out a 2048x1536 pic easily.
Nice with a scout though, I've always liked the little ships, they feel more manageable. With a Galaxy-class you couldn't even hope to visit all the rooms in as a captain, but a Defiant or Saber class, or this thing, much more handy.
What year is this? Looks later than TOS, judging by the lines on the Sagittarius.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Pretty! I went, "Hey, a Paris!"
Nim, That's the D-7's nacelle in the corner
Posted by Makotokat (Member # 1041) on :
hey masao did you make some drawing for this one?
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Edit: I'm a dumbass for not realizing that Masao designed the ship on the cover. I thought his work was plagerized or something.
[ October 17, 2006, 03:32 PM: Message edited by: Mars Needs Women ]
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
The Archer class (named for you know who) is basically a rescale of my Paris class with detailing (impulse deck, vertical walls of disc, etc) updated from 2200 to 2260. Paris is about 150 m (I think), and Archer is about 1/3 that size. It has only a single deck in the saucer with a split-level, open-ceiling engineering section in the rear part of the saucer and the tail. The insides were designed to be submarine-like, so the deck reaches full height only at the center of primary hull. The 3-tall docking port was actually too tall for the edge of the disc, so I had to add a slight tunnel at the bottom. Archer can land with a landing pad on the bottom of the deflector housing and some really attractive legs that fold out from the rear underside of the dish. There's a cargo bay with a ramp out the back/underside of the primary hull.
Here's how small this little ship is:
I have a larger pic, interior schematics, and exterior schematics, but they can't be released until nearer the book's publication date or until a decision is made about whether the schematics will be included as a fold out.
Author David Mack says this scene is in the book. The nacelle is actually on fire. Yeah!
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Uh...huh. After a closer second look.....are both ships actually IN atmo??
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
I'd guess that they are. Any starship should be able to handle a measly 1-gravity acceleration.
Posted by Makotokat (Member # 1041) on :
I've been sharpening my modeling skills with your paris recently Masao, maybe I should start making a 'smaller' version. Is the underside the same? I assume no shuttlebay?
Posted by Makotokat (Member # 1041) on :
I want to make this one....I like small ships! Could I weasel out the saucer Diameter from you Masao?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Nice. Why, though is the top of the front of the Klingon ship just an ellipsoid sphere? (an egg thingy) shouldnt the sides go down to the hull straight?
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Posted by Makotokat (Member # 1041) on :
Think of the angle, she's heading about 5 degrees up or so, changes you're perspective....
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
That's a really nice rendering of a really cool ship. Tells a story, sets a mood. Congrats, Masao.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Can anyone find me a clear picture of the TOP of the D7 Cruiser from TOS?? Even Trials and Tribbleations - I don't recall seeing an 'egg' at the front top - the K'ting'a seems to have sides that go straight down.
[ October 18, 2006, 03:21 AM: Message edited by: AndrewR ]
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
No TOS shots are from an angle that would reveal the exact nature of that bubble, AFAIK. The enemy always hovers menacingly slightly above the line of sight... Except for the lower-right ship in the triangle formation of "The Enterprise Incident", and that's too far away and out of focus. At least until we get the CGI remake of the episode.
However, McCullar's "IDIC Page" article seems to feature authentic pictures of the original model, complete with an "egg".
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
It IS an egg. Hmmm - so many 'futuristic' things from the sixties used 'egg' shaped solids. I think at least one of the TOS matt paintings had an egg structure. I'm glad they changed it for the TMP model.
Just reading about the Klingon TMP model on the IDIC page. Did THAT get sold at auction too?
Is the Klingon TOS Model back at the Smithsonian?
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
quote:I think at least one of the TOS matt paintings had an egg structure.
I feel sorry for the guy who had to frame it.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
quote:Originally posted by Makotokat: I want to make this one....I like small ships! Could I weasel out the saucer Diameter from you Masao?
It's 24.2 m long and 21.3 m wide. The bottom's been changed in that the bottom bulge is moved back and is no longer aligned with the top bulge. There are also tunnels that allow the docking ports to fit the disc. No shuttlebay, but there is a ramped cargohold in the rear. The impulse deck has also been made curvy, sort of like that on Constitution.
You'll have to wait until the schematics are released!
Posted by Makotokat (Member # 1041) on :
I thought you curved the impulse deck! Is that a Torpedo tube above the main deck? I'll keep an eye out for the schematics!
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
quote:Originally posted by Makotokat: I thought you curved the impulse deck! Is that a Torpedo tube above the main deck? I'll keep an eye out for the schematics!
It's a probe launcher. This ship is poorly armed and doesn't carry torpedoes (I think).
Posted by Makotokat (Member # 1041) on :
Even starbug had a garbage cannon
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Scouts usually double as patrolcraft outside conflicts due to the similar mission profiles, so it shouldn't be too poorly hung.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Masao are you getting paid for this?
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Of course I'm being paid! (Don't ask how much.)
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Got paid in zlotys, forints, or some other worthless currency again, huh?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
No no, it could only be in quatloos!
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
It's a Starfleet job. I'm getting paid in Federation credits, which may or may not be worth anything in 150 years.
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
"I'm not going anywhere until I get my 600 quatloos!"
That Melllvar (three Ls) was a cheat!
Anyways, nice work Masao (as usual I begrudgingly add).
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I'm glad they changed it for the TMP model.![[Frown]](frown.gif)