I know that many people loved the Matrix Trilogy just as it ended in The Matrix Revolutions; but there were also many who wished that it would continue on. I�m one of the latter. I saw a whole new level where it could go. So, for fun I wrote another episode called Matrix 4-The Super Matrix.
It's a completely new extension of the Matrix Trilogy and a bit of a mind bender, if I do say so myself. The story paints a picture of what might have happened before The Matrix and after The Matrix Revolutions; sort of a prequel/sequel, I guess. If you're interested, you can download the full-length screenplay at my blog
Unless the Wachowski brothers or Warner Brothers approaches me, I have no illusions about this being made into a real movie. And I make no money or benefit from the story other than the fun of writing it and the pleasure of hearing people's comments. This screenplay is purely for the reading enjoyment of all those who love and believe in the Matrix mystique.
If you read it, please come back here and let me know what you think. I'd love to know. Thanks and happy reading. PD Wood
P.S. If this post is in the wrong place, please let me know.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
This is getting awful close to spam. Sure you're posting a link in your first post, advertising about something, but you're apparently not actually selling anything. I haven't clicked on the link and will not do so as I have no interest in this.
I'd bet that this thread will be snipped locked, and you yourself turfed from this forum, but that is my opinion. If you want to dispute it, feel free to do so and incur the wrath of the admins here.
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
I've posted this at many other forums and nobody has ever branded it as spam. It creates a lot of lively dialogue and most people are intrigued by the story.
I hope it isn't viewed as spam. I don't make any money from it or sell anything. I'm just interested in people reading the story and giving me feedback.
Hope you keep me on.
Thanks, PD Wood
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
So what, this isn't the forum for posting stuff you've designed or created anymore? Members post stuff hosted on their own websites all the time. How is this different?
Besides, is this board really in need of strict spam rules at this point? It ain't exactly like we're being inundated, people. It's pretty dead around here these days...
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
I had no intention of stirring things up. If there is objection to me posting this story here, I'll abide by the rules.
I just thought people might like a fun story to read.
Let me know. Either way, no hard feelings.
PD Wood
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
New members have it rough here no matter what they post, pd...usually, anyway.
I've got bits of both opinions expressed so far - it does seem rather spamlike to throw up stuff you've created as your first post ever, mostly because that's the way spammers tend to operate. Open an account on a forum, splash it with links, forget about it. But on the other hand, Mim's right, that's what this particular forum is for - posting shit we come up with for people to talk about.
In conclusion, my unsolicited advice...when you join a forum, lurk about a bit first to get the feel of the place, then be at least a little active so people get used to seeing you around before you start posting original content. The lurking bit is especially important - the culture at each board is going to be different, and they'll take offense at different things, and ignorance will be no excuse...;p
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
Daniel,
Thanks for the insight. I'll take your advice and lurk a bit. Hope it doesn't seem too forced at this point.
And just to let everyone know, I'm genuinely looking for dialogue and feedback on my story; I'm not just trying to drive people to my site.
See ya'll around.
PD Wood
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
quote:And just to let everyone know, I'm genuinely looking for dialogue and feedback on my story; I'm not just trying to drive people to my site.
That's the line between spam and not.
Welcome to Flare.
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
Cool. Thanks. Hope some of you have the time to read it.
PD Wood
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
Well...I've been lurking a bit, hoping to find some other threads on the Matrix and I didn't find one (all the way back to 1999). I guess it's not really considered a sci-fi movie, is that correct?
PD Wood
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Will too.
And I've written plenty on the sequels in this very forum. Can't remember what I wrote or how good it was, but it was plenty insightful.
Mark
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
"He thinks about the girl who can levitate balls."
I bet.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
I guess if the almighty Capps God of Flare says it is ok, then I will say it is ok as well.
Welcome to Flare.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: New members have it rough here no matter what they post, pd...usually, anyway.
I've got bits of both opinions expressed so far - it does seem rather spamlike to throw up stuff you've created as your first post ever, mostly because that's the way spammers tend to operate. Open an account on a forum, splash it with links, forget about it. But on the other hand, Mim's right, that's what this particular forum is for - posting shit we come up with for people to talk about.
In conclusion, my unsolicited advice...when you join a forum, lurk about a bit first to get the feel of the place, then be at least a little active so people get used to seeing you around before you start posting original content. The lurking bit is especially important - the culture at each board is going to be different, and they'll take offense at different things, and ignorance will be no excuse...;p
I think that's a bit of a myth because my first post was a piece of crappy artwork and I wasn't majorly hassled for it.
As for the lack of Matrix centric discussions, I think it's mostly due to how resoundingly disappointing the sequels were. Personally I got much more enjoyment out of the Animatrix, but then I am a big animation junkie.
As far as your script goes, I have not the time to read it, but I've got to say "Super Matrix" is a very off putting title.
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
I'll look around a bit more in-depth for Matrix threads.
And Reverend,
What about the "Super Matrix" title is so off putting to you?
I found the sequels to be a bit disappointing, too, mostly because they left a lot of ideas and characters unresolved. I try to tie a lot of those unresolved things together in my story. You might want to at least check out the first 10 or 15 pages and see if it grabs you. If not, I'd understand.
PD Wood
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
The Super part pretty much does it.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
The matrix was created to make man docile and complacent, so logically the "Super" Matrix should be a version ten times worse than the original, turning all its inhabitants into couch potatoes and lazy bums. Not even the lesbian latex girls and freedom fighters are saved from the eternal fate of eating pringles all day long and fapping joylessly.
Was that the gist of it?
I think resurrecting Neo is hurting the end of "Revolutions" too much. ($$$$$$$$$$$) I'd say it's even worse than having the Petrelli brothers survive into Heroes season 2, completely destroying the drama value of their sacrifice in the season finale.
I don't think any death in Marvel comics(sacrificial or not) has made me move an eyebrow during the last 6 years of reading because it has gotten to the point where even the X-Men characters themselves mention in the comic how their group has a "special" relationship with death, and don't stay that way for long. Anyone care to start a "Banshee Lives!"-pool? Put me down for "six months from now".
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I prefer the Return of Rom: Spaceknight.
Long live Galador.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Yeah, $$$$the Petrelli brothers really should have stayed dead - or, well, at least Nathan. It rather makes sense for Peter to have lived - Ted and Peter should both be able to survive the release of their own power.$$$$
But, you know, I seem to still be alone in my opinion that Neo didn't die.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
At least they had a good explanation for Nathan being alive. Dramatically, it could go either way, but it makes sense in-universe.
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
Daniel,
You're not alone in your opinion that Neo didn't. I completely agree.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
No one can let Keanu go...
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I actually *really* don't like Keanu, in anything. I guess he sort of pulled Constantine off. But it's just that I don't see any evidence that Neo died. So he was laying down with his eyes closed at the end - unconsious? having a kip? NO, everyone says, HE'S DIED.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
No, but they carried him off on a floating robo-hurse, which certainly applies a certain degree of being dead. Having said that, I tend to think only his body died and his consciousness lives on in some form in the new Matrix. As for why the machines carried off his body, perhaps they will be putting it on ice...or pink electric goo for some purpose to be revealed in however they choose to continue the franchise. Actually, didn't they release a MMOG that took place after Revolutions? I should think they covered some of this stuff on that platform.
Regardless an uncertain fate of the hero is a very old story telling tradition from King Arther on up to Shane. Something I'm sure the Wachowski Brothers are well aware of.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
In The Matrix Online, the ultimate fate of Neo is debated in the game world. The Machines never returned his body, and all they would say is that he wasn't liquefied.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I actually *really* don't like Keanu, in anything.
I have trouble taking him seriously in anything. I keep picturing him as Ted "Theodore" Logan.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
I've liked him in everything I've seen him in, except "Much ado about nothing", but then again that wasn't his star vehicle. Speed I liked a lot. Daniels and Hopper helped but I didn't feel they were his crutches.
I like Keanu BECAUSE he's Keanu. The "whoah", the outstretched hand to emphasize a point, it's become mannerisms and entered pop culture, so he's here to stay. Sorry for dragging this thread pissing and shitting off the track.
I'm dissapointed that the sci-fi art world didn't pick up on all the cool ship designs of Matrix, I would've wanted to see the Novalis, Cadeuceus and the Hammer in different jpegs with solarflares and gunflashes a hell of a lot more than yet even more NX-01's and sovvies. GRR.
Posted by pdwood (Member # 2063) on :
Just wondering whether anyone's read the Super Matrix story that started the thread. Lots of comments and opinions floating around; I'd love to see a few about the story. Anybody game?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim: I don't think any death in Marvel comics(sacrificial or not) has made me move an eyebrow during the last 6 years of reading because it has gotten to the point where even the X-Men characters themselves mention in the comic how their group has a "special" relationship with death, and don't stay that way for long. Anyone care to start a "Banshee Lives!"-pool? Put me down for "six months from now".
Yeah, but the X-Books suck, and have for years. I mean, come on- a chararcter like Pyro can die from that (lame-ass) "Legacy Virus", only to pop up a year later with no explanation whatsoever.
I cant even count all the times Professor X has died. Fuck-sakes: BUCKY and ROBIN (Jason Todd) have both come back from the graves. In short, current comics writers could care less about prior events and little continuity oversight exists in comics: probably because the demographics suggest most readers dont stay with a book more than six months (explaining why most titles have "part whatever of whatever" on their covers and why creative teams only sign on for a particular storyline- not for say, a year contract).
As to Matrix stuff- dig through our old discussions and try to resolve some of the glaring holes pointed out- like how does Zion's population rebuild without direct assistance from the AI's?
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Haven't they *got* direct assistance from the machines? Didn't they say Neo was to choose, what, I can't remember, 16 men and 50 women or some weirdass numbers, and the machines would free them and allow them passage back to Zion to begin the rebuilding? (Although I got the distinct impression that part of The Deal was that Neo wasn't allowed to tell the humans the real truth; as Morpheus remembered, 'It was He who freed the first of us.')
Mm, and also, why when we see all the previous The Ones getting pissed at the Architect, they all look exactly alike? It seems the machines couldn't stop The Ones from appearing due to some kind of nameless 'anomaly,' but the same appearance like that might indicate that they actively *made* The Ones, from the same genome each time, possibly to try to preempt the 'anomaly' with a being they at least could partially predict due to genetics?
Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim: I'm dissapointed that the sci-fi art world didn't pick up on all the cool ship designs of Matrix, I would've wanted to see the Novalis, Cadeuceus and the Hammer in different jpegs with solarflares and gunflashes a hell of a lot more than yet even more NX-01's and sovvies. GRR.
Here are few pics from a quick search on deviantArt. I think the reason there isn't so much work based on the ships is that there are just way better references for the NX-01 and so on. The are orthographic images of the Matrix ships online, but they're not as widespread as Star Trek vessels.
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