I was kind of disappointed when the "remastered" TTA book was published by Morrigan in 2006. I felt that the book completely screwed up my favorite ship, the Avery Hornet.
Here's the original Colin Hay painting in Spacecraft: 2000-2100 AD
Here's the "remastered" version in the Morrigan book.
Here's my version (WIP)
[ November 28, 2008, 05:25 AM: Message edited by: Masao ]
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Nevermind... looks like the typo was corrected.
Very nice rendering you have there. I loved the original book.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Ok, I'll bite, what's the difference? Besides a general elongation that is.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Nice Work. May ask if your Earth Stellar Navy ships are partially inspired by this book?
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
though i'm still confused. was this book series from japan orginally? It looks familiar but i don't think it's the space flight book that was remotely/vaguely related to star trek...
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
No it isn't related though this and the Spaceflight Chronology are both from 1970s and as such look like they were drawn for Heavy Metal.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
I used to check the TTA book out of the library all the time when I was a pre-teen. The only one they had was the "Ghostships and Derilicts."
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: Ok, I'll bite, what's the difference? Besides a general elongation that is.
Fidelity in shape and detail, nothing important. C'mon, Rev, I thought you were THE detail guy! That's like asking what's the difference between TOS Enterprise and the JJ-prise.
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: May ask if your Earth Stellar Navy ships are partially inspired by this book?
Not really. However, my upcoming (I hope) Pachyderm transport is a direct steal of the Hornet.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:Fidelity in shape and detail, nothing important. C'mon, Rev, I thought you were THE detail guy! That's like asking what's the difference between TOS Enterprise and the JJ-prise.
THE detail guy? Says the bloke who constantly fussed over the Oberth Schematics! Still, you make it sound like I'm some obsessive compulsive bread basket. *flicks light switch on and off, coughs 3.5 times*
Seriously though; to be fair to the 3D people, that illustration looks like it's using a very dramatic perspective and disappearing point set-up to imbue scale, so the proportions would be very subjective. Even if they got it so that particular angle looked just right, you can bet that it'd look like crap from any other perspective. The 3rd dimension can do strange things and knows not the 2D artists law of aesthetics over geometry.
Though you're right, it doesn't really capture the feel of Chris Foss's work (I'm assuming this is one of his) as well as say, the Homeworld games.
Oh and you missed out the windows/yellow markings on the aft black areas, the white and red triangle on the nose is aligned incorrectly, you missed out the symbol on the orange circle, the dorsal spires are too fat, you missed out the five horizontal details on the intake.... Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Looks good (both versions frankly). I tink the nose should be more pointy- you've got it pretty blunt there. What are those black stripe things on the hull supposed to be? They look like wndows but that would be silly....what is the scale on this beast?
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Jason: The black stripes are supposed to be stripes, i.e., markings. I doubt that they're anyhing structural. Chris Foss-style ships were usually painted up like barber poles in clown land. You're right about the nose.
I have no idea what the size is: it could be 10 meters or 100 meters. But I'm thinking this ship has a crew of about 5.
This is a picture of a model I found on the net yesterday (I didn't make it). If you assume the orange oval below the black triangle is a crew door, the fuselage is about the size of a C-130.
Rev: My schematic is a WIP, so it doesn't have all the markings yet. I've been working on getting the shape right. But I think as long as you're trying to document someone else's design (this goes double for canon trek ships), you might as well try to be as accurate as possible. (As far as I can tell, this is a painting by Colin Hay, one of many UK artists of the 1970s who successfully mimicked Foss's style. None of Foss's paintings appeared in the TTA books. )
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