OK, was asked by a couple of people to try and come up with some Klingon models for my site. There's no end of Federation models for people to download, but when it comes to rendering battles there's very few klingon ships for them to fight (STO anyone?)
This is a work in progress shot of something I came up with during some spare time at work. It's just a blocked-in doodle at the moment, many of the sections will be remade before actual detailing would take place. This is meant to give me an idea of the overall shape and look of the thing while I work on it.
I'm thinking this is a relatively small ship, I'll probably just have the flat area above the torp tube on the head as a single deck in depth. This would probably be the smallest ship to use this particular wing/neck/head configuration. Anyway, just thought you'd be interested to see it, it's kinda quiet around here right now.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Not a bad start. If it's close to Bird of Prey size then it might be an idea to mix in some BoP detailing in with the battle cruiser structure. For instance, try rounding those aft, dorsal structures and give it a similar look to the BoP's radiator thingies. Perhaps a couple of large mounted cannon emplacements would be in order too. Maybe under-slung, maybe built into the nacelle tips?
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
Read my mind. I experimented with a BoP head on the thing, but it just looked silly. The big protrusions on the top are going to be diced up to look a bit like the BoP radiators, or I'll be adding similar BoP style bits below them, linking the wing and the protrusions. Weapons emplacements are probably going to be underslung on the middle section of the wings. I need to come up with a more interesting nacelle design I think, possibly with weapons on the front end.
Todays update, bridge structure improved and new nacelles built. Still pretty basic at this stage, just slowly adding detail and altering to suit the plan. This is going to be somewhere between a BoP and a D7 in terms of size and capability, so will share elements of both.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Sorry but you latest screencaps aren't working, but what I've seen so far I do like. Nice transition between the D-5 from Enteprise and the D-7 from TOS. Could it be the coveted D-6 Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
Looking good, although IMO the latest nacelles are looking a tad Eaves-ish. Which would be okay for an update of an old design, but not what I'd expect to see on a potential D-6...
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
I didn't mention D6. No sir. I was just asked to create some Klingon original designs for people to use in their pictures and animations. My idea was for this to be the smallest of this shape of battlecruiser, the first step up from the smaller BoP classes. I therefore wanted it to be a bit sleeker than bigger versions, hence the reworked nacelles.
They're similar to the latest Eaves design, but not a direct copy and I'll be adding more bumps and lumps to their exterior as well. I may write them off and go with something chunkier, it's all a bit nebulous right now. As I refine the body area I'll get a better idea of how the nacelles will finally look.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
I know you didn't mention D-6, but it was suggested as a name for it. If you want to make it that old, older nacelles would be more fitting...
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I kind of miss the old bisected nacelles, but these work just as well. I'm not sure squashing the ventral "head bulge" quite works though. Crazy idea, but if you're going for more streamlined then try and see what it looks like if you spin the lower section of the head 180 so the apex of the egg shape points forward rather than back and have the torpedo cut-in, up as close to the upper flat piece as possible.
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
What you get then is something that looks like a BoP head, I tried it. I thought about a BoP head on a D7 body, but then it starts to look like those horrendous kitbash drawings that show up all the time.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I like it so far- looks like a Klingon Chamdley class. Dont make those large structures into anything KBOP-looking- instead, give them large hangar doors for deploying assualt ships.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I like it so far- looks like a Klingon Chamdley class. Dont make those large structures into anything KBOP-looking- instead, give them large hangar doors for deploying assualt ships.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Hmm, it's a Vor'cha with a D2 head.
The head is a bit big. If I were you I would experiment with making the head different sizes smaller. If the head would be 2/5ths of the size it is now, it would make the engineering section look imposing and powerful. With the size it is now, and those oversized radiators, it looks like a Chibi-D2.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Actually the Vor'cha or perhaps the Neg'var might be a better source in inspiration than the BoP. If you slid the bridge structure back towards the neck and elongated the flat piece, crafting it into a large weapons array then you might avoid it looking too close to a D-7/BoP kludge.
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
Man, this one is starting to hurt. Trying to do something with the body pissed me off, so I made a new one much more closely matching the D7 original. I am going to try putting a bit more stuff on top and bottom though, to see how it looks. If that fails I'll maybe switch to Vor'cha style.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Switch to Teriyaki Style.
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
Teriyaki style it is! Here's another attempt, this time with a more contemporary design for the body. Still not sure about this, looks a little heavy when viewed from above, but I think it's progress.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Those ventral parallel engine blocks are nice, they have a Negh'vary feel.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Looks good! Starting to get a little shorter and wider?
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
Yeah, I like it. It's got a good TOS feel with a bit of extra greebling, but not over Eavesy.
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fabrux: Looks good! Starting to get a little shorter and wider?
Actually it's slightly narrower and the same length, but thicker looking and with a longer wing section. I'll have to play around with the proportions a bit to get it better looking.
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
Lookin' good. Really like the detail to the aft the nacelle. Very nice.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Have you tried doodling with the large empty spaces of the wings? Perhaps make one triangular slit or two parallel slits/holes through each wing, as an experiment? Or if not empty holes, perhaps Banshee/Akira-style supercharger domes or some other nefarious equipment to break up the smoothness. Also, here's an idea; corrugate the main surface of the wings, like a washboard, or the solar panels of a TIE Fighter. It could be a new kind of panel for aiding cloaking or somesuch. [/brainstorm.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Lets wait until he's cracked the basic shape of the thing before we get all excited about the detailing.
Not sure how to describe this, but it might look better if the central "wing" piece tapered back at a steeper angle, perhaps ending up flush with the impulse block?
Also, crazy idea but I wonder what it would look like if the wings could swing up like a BoP's? If it's on the small side it should be feasible for it to land and the extra functionality might help to divorce it a little from the D-7/K'Tinga.
Of course once you've finished this, you're going to need a Romulan ship to blow up.
[edit] Actually, if I can dig up the files for this old thing I may have to steal your original nacelle design. I think they'd suit quite nicely.
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
Yeah, the Romulan could be a go-er. I'm rather bored of knocking out Federation stuff, as apparently is everyone else. People seem to want to get some baddies for the Feds to fight in their RPGs, animations and fan fictions.
Rev's right, simple detailing on the surfaces is the last thing we worry about, but the holes and cut-outs is something to think about. I cant hinge the wings easily due to the angle of the joint between body and wing. If I fold them along that natural line they will hinge backwards and up, looking rather unaerodynamic. I'll have a look at ways to do it though.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Oh man, I remember that Romulan ship. I've loved ever since I first saw it. Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
Axeman: About the corrugation, it wasn't necessarily texture I meant but actual furrowed surface in the wing itself. But regardless, I'm not sure I will be around a computer in the coming weeks, so I throw stuff out there while there's still time, food for thought for later or whatever.
Could be good to have streaks of both the D7 and Vorcha in the same package. The pointy "shoulders" of the current model are very nice, maybe couple it with that beefier neckbase of the Vorcha-model, which gave it sturdiness in the midsection.
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