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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [QB] So, what's with these commissioning plaques? Were these ships really built in the late 21st century USA, and somehow survived all the recyclings of Zion? Or built anew each time, by the "early" Zionese, under the illusion that they were living in the late 21st century and had just recently escaped underground? Or built anew by the Machines, and donated to the Zionese? The latter is probably what the movie implies, although the former would be what the original plaque from the first movie was meant to signify. The middle possibility doesn't seem all that likely, since the Zionese probably wouldn't call Zion "USA" even immediately after going underground, nor would the dates be very plausible. But that prompts the question of how the restart of Zion and the ships is "justified" for the Zionese. What sort of a fake past is fed to the Council - a story of a near-loss of Zion, with just 23 survivors, or a story of continuous history, mentally re-enforced on everybody after the liberation process has replenished Zion's population to a level that fits the continuity illusion? The latter would dictate that Zion be a Matrix-type controlled illusion. The former could allow for a free, physically existing Zion, just with misled inhabitants (and possible moles). This is old, idle and somewhat stale speculation, of course. I just wanted to sound the waters for any tidbits that could reinforce one theory or the other - and perhaps the history of the ships could offer us some sort of a handle? Timo Saloniemi [/QB][/QUOTE]
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