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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kmart: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mountain Man: [qb] When I was a small kid a UHF channel aired "The Shape Of Things To Come" that was probably the first movie that ever really caught my interest.Then "Forbidden Planet".Lets hear about Oldy but Goodies that you think of when the word ground breaking is used.Books to,and as many as you care to list. [/qb][/QUOTE]Are you sure you don't mean THINGS TO COME? That thing you mention above, THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME, was an unwatchably bad movie from 1980 (saw it on a double bill with TMP and laughed till I wept -- there are lunar exteriors shot OUTDOORS in daylight in Canada that are just ludicrous), trying to cash in on the Wells name, but not really owing much (besides character names) to the 30s film. I'd say DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL and THE THING are still very solid older sf films. I don't think the fx in DAY have dated at all, and they serve the story, which is what really makes it all work. FORBIDDEN PLANET has that terrible 50s color film look and 'comic relief' characters that probably inspired Cochrane in FIRST CONTACT, but other than that it has always been enjoyable to watch. In the 60s, there's FIVE MILLION YEARS TO EARTH (also known as QUATERMASS & THE PIT), which is a serious intelligent SF film that mixes religious aspects in quite ingenious ways (warning: the movie has an effects sequence so bad in it that it may take you out of the film; I saw it at a revival house and the whole place was rocking with laughter, which did NOT help the movie at all.) I think COLOSSUS THE FORBIN PROJECT is also very good. As for older SF novels ... Van Vogt's VOYAGE OF THE SPACE BEAGLE and WAR AGAINST THE RULL were good pulp era reading, as was a lot of Heinlein's 'juvenile novels' like SPACE CADET. When I finally got through with it, I found Clarke's CHILDHOOD'S END to be a captivating read, and always wish somebody'd get their act together and do a kickass miniseries of it. Those are just a few off the top of my head. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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