This is topic Crusade UK (�) in forum General Sci-Fi at Flare Sci-Fi Forums.


To visit this topic, use this URL:
https://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/8/64.html

Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
 
By the way, the '�' is meant to be a spoiler symbol - a joke. 8)

Well, Crusade is now being shown here in the UK. I have to go round to my parents' place to watch it via their satellite dish (thereby having to explain it to my mother - if anyone can come up with a way of explaining Babylon 5 to their mother, please reveal it here - and also endure my father carping from behind his newspaper).

So. . . it wasn't a brilliant episode, but then we always knew that. I tried to put certain things out of my mind - that this was a late addition to provide a proper introduction, that I won't see "A Call To Arms" until it gets released on video, apparently next week. . . and by and large I was successful. Gideon needs character development, as does Dr. Chambers. Dureena was cuter than I'd been led to realise. Galen was just annoying, no matter how well he acts. The characters that looked interesting are Lt. Matheson and Max Eilerson. Mum and I spent all the episode shouting "DEAD!" whenever the shuttle pilot Trace appeared.

The effects were quite good, especially the planetary vistas - except the Mars dome interior. We're going to need to see more of the Excalibur before I can decide how I feel about it - yet, strangely, I want to know more about its internal layout than I ever did with B5 itself. The scale of the beast also needs to be hammered home - a mile and a quarter is rather hard to grasp.

Ultimately, the lack of a proper pilot is always going to be a problem. Explanations of how Gideon's chosen crew were able to settle in on the Excalibur and all its new systems so easily. . . And why that explorer ship had the only different EarthForce uniforms we've ever seen. The whole way they handed over the ship to Gideon, using Tim Thomerson as a Senator (will he feature more later? As a Jack Deth fan I hope so, since there's gotta be something crooked about this character!), worked in some ways but seemed rushed in others. And no Rangers? This seems to be a uniquely Earth exercise, and that could limit the show and the concept.

But of course, i'll be watching it again. It won't help, since I think the deadline in the actros' contracts is upon us. . .

------------------
"I am smart! I am smart! s-m-a-t, I mean s-m-a-R-t!"

 


Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
A lot of what you are talking about here improves with Future episodes. You are going to see a lot of Galon. You will get a little bit of the feel of the size of The Excalibur in episode 4.

------------------
WHO ARE YOU
 


Posted by HMS White Star (Member # 174) on :
 
Hopefully the next episode won't have as much of Galen in it, not that I don't like Galen but he has been the center of 3 of the 4 episodes. O well the next episode will be cool hopefully.

HMS White Star
 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
I liked this board before when you could see the other replies. Oh well.

To answer your questions:

Did you try saying like Star Trek only better to your mom? :-)

About the Excalibur:

Well, it gets better. The Excalibur is a whopping 2,990.37 meters long. Head for your old stomping ground at Tiggerclaw's BBoard for more info. There's also my Tech Manual at Myrkr.

About the characters:

Gideon is fleshed out a little in Well of Forever and a lot in Path of Sorrows (one of the best SciFi episodes I've ever seen. It's got Hugo written all over it). So far, we don't see much of Chambers. We may see something in Patterns of the Soul, and if I've been told right, we'll see her in Ruling from the Tomb. Trust me, Dureena looks even better in real life. I was surprised seeing her out of makeup. Galen does get better and is there a lot in the first 4 eps but Patterns of the Soul probably won't have him. When jms started writing, we had bits of Galen here and there. No, it's a whole bunch, followed by none at all, to very little.

No, I don't believe Tim Thomerson will be appearing again. And in the original 1st episode, Racing the Night, we did get to see the Rangers again discussing possibile locations, plus other references.

The actor's contracts don't expire until July 16th. It's starting to look bad.

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by Chimaera on :
 
The Excalibur is introduced a little more thoroughly in Call to Arms, including why Earth Force can use it so easily.

Crusade, IMHO, gets much better with the later episodes. The first one has TNT's meddling written all over it. Episode 2 was pretty good, episode 4 was excellent (missed 3). Galen is actually one of my favourite characters so far.

------------------
"But, it was so artistically done."
-Grand Admiral Thrawn



 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
Eipsode 3 was a little bit of 4 mix with some TNT (like the Alien scene, that was funny but a little lame).

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
Five was very good, and Galon no where to be seen.

------------------
WHO ARE YOU
 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
How true. It was interesting to see Brian Thompson in a caring role instead of an Alien Bounty Hunter, Klingon, or evil Empweor trying to take over Earth.

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
 
Does anyone know when the episodes (except for 'Call to Arms') will be released on tape??

------------------
"Calm may work for Locutus of the Borg here,
but I'm freaked out, and I intend to stay that way!"

- Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer


 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
Well, In the Beginning, The Gathering (new pilot), Season 1, and most of Season 5 are on tape now and B5 will also go on DVD, too.

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
 
Season 1 of Crusade is already on tape??

------------------
"Calm may work for Locutus of the Borg here,
but I'm freaked out, and I intend to stay that way!"

- Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer


 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
So when do the words "In the Beginning," "The Gathering," and "Season 5" go together with "Crusade?"

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
 
Since you mentioning 'season 1' in between them.

I take this as a: NO, season 1 of Crusade isn't on tape (yet).

------------------
"Calm may work for Locutus of the Borg here,
but I'm freaked out, and I intend to stay that way!"

- Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer


 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
That is a confirmed kill. Hell, we haven't even seen every episode of Crusade yet.

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
 
Maybe if you'd said "all the episodes of B5 except the second half of Season 5, which have yet to be released, are available." You DO know s2, s3 and s4 have been released? And the DVD issue is nowhere near being confirmed, there's just a large campaign to have it happen.
 
Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
No, all Season 1 is on tape, not quite sure on Season 5, and B5 is coming on DVD, there's just a campaign to get the 16:9 anamorphic view. It is coming out on DVD, just in which formats is still to be known.

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
 
Um, excuse me? Hello? Seasons 2 to 4? Out on video? I have them?

And "The Long Road" sucked big-time. Worst B5-related episode ever, worse than "Infection" or "Grey 17 is Missing."
 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
Well, there is the Coloumba House mail in tapes that probably do have Season 2-4, but as far as the ones released in the stores (with 2 episodes on them) have all of Season 1 and most of Season 5 that I am sure of. They may have started Season 2, but I'll have to check.

And I have to partly disagree on your assesment of the Long Road. It was tons better than Infection (oddly enough, both have Marshall Teague), although I liked Grey 17 is Missing. It had great moments with Garibaldi and Neroon actually smacked somebody around without getting his handed to him.

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
Episode #5 has no Galon.

------------------
WHO ARE YOU
 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
Yep, we won't be seeing Galen for a while.

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
 
Season 1: (incl. Pilot) Released by Beyond Vision here in the UK; 11 tapes ("Grail," "Eyes" and "Legacies" on one tape, "A Voice In The Wilderness I & II" + "Babylon Squared" on another).

Season 2, 3, 4 and 5 plus the TV Movies: Released by Warner Brothers Video, two episodes per tape.
 


Posted by Dan (Member # 129) on :
 
Hey First One, you'll love Ruling From the Tomb. Your *favorite* character has a little *accident.*

------------------
Daniel Henderson
Senior Babylon 5 Editor
http://www.myrkr.com



 


Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
 
Last nights episode was the best so far. I think it was #11, but I may have missed one along the line. Don't miss this one Lee, Talk about getting a feel for the size of the ship, and a closeup look at the intership transport system. Great episode.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

Please don't anyone give away any details on this ep, till it's shown in Europe. It is one that needs to be experienced.

------------------
Outside of a dog, a book is a mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it's to dark to read. Groucho Marx


 


Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
 
"Ruling From The Tomb" was okay, but then it had Locksley in it. I've missed the two after that, since I've moved and we haven't gotten around to getting cable or satellite yet. I know I'll get to see them again eventually, and I'd far sooner it be when I know there's going to be more. Not much chance of that though. . .

------------------
Phase 1: Steal Underpants
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit!

 


Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
I usually miss Crusade, but I did get to see most of last night's episode. I agree it was great, but I will comply with Kosh's request for the absense of spoilers...

------------------
Darlene: I read a lot of science fiction.
Herbert: Bless you, my child.
Kay: The world needs more people like you.

-Deep Space Nine, "Far Beyond the Stars."


 




© 1999-2024 Charles Capps

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3