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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>jh</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,26,10,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 26, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:55 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Anyone know some good ones?<P>------------------<BR>Proverbs for Paranoids, 3: If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,26,12,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 26, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:24 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Lots.<P>Look especially at <b>Isaac Asimov</b>. His Elijah Bailey novels - <i>The Caves of Steel</i>, <i>The Naked Sun</i>, and <i>The Robots Of Dawn</i>. Also, it's not in print anymore - I don't think so anyway - but look out for <i>Asimov's Mysteries</i>, a collection of his short stories which feature mysteries involving scientific causes or resolutions. For the more Fantastic side of SF mystery, try several collections of his Black Widower stories.<P>Another SF writer fond of the SF twist on the hard-boiled detective is <b>Philip K Dick</b>. You've seen <i>Blade Runner</i>? Then read the novel on which it's based, <i>Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?</i> Also, <i>Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said</i>.<P>There's a lot of cyberpunk fiction that's very reminiscent of 30's detective fiction, such as <b>William Gibson</b>'s Sprawl trilogy (<i>Neuromancer</i>, <i>Count Zero</i>, and <i>Mona Lisa Overdrive</i>) but also read the collection <i>Burning Chrome</i> as well as <i>Virtual Light</i> and <i>Idoru</i> - heck, that's just about everything he's done!<P><b>Michael Marshall Smith</b>'s three books to date, <i>Only Forward</i>, <i>Spares</i> and <i>One Of Us</i> should be read by EVERYONE here anyway.<P>What else? <b>Larry Niven</b>'s short story <i>Meddler</i>. . . <b>James Lovegrove</b> is a new writer whose brilliant book <i>Days</i> has a store detective as the protagonist. . . I'll think of some more. . . <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>jh</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,26,13,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 26, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:55 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I guess I should've included a list of the ones I've already read. <P>The Caves of Steel trilogy is excellent and I've read them all; and the Robot books that take place after Lije's death even though there no where near as good. <P>I've read both "Neuromancer" and "Do Androids..." but none of Gibson's others or the other Dick book you mentioned.<P>And I hadn't heard of Smith's or Lonegrove's at all and I'll definitey check into them. <P>If you come up with anymore I'm primarily interested in those that are set strictly in a human future. I'm not really looking for anything with an alien detective, etc. Thanks for the tips!<P>------------------<BR>Proverbs for Paranoids, 3: If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.<p>[This message has been edited by jh (edited July 26, 1999).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,27,3,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 27, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:05 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Damn it, I was going to recommend that Niven story! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"> It's the only one I can think of. (Well, that wasn't already mentioned. Of course, it was already mentioned, but I didn't know that at the time. Er...or something.)<P>------------------<BR>"We kid around a lot about people who are cyclopses, but seriously; if you're a mythic figure you've got challenges that no one should have to deal with." <BR>--<BR>John Flansburgh <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Xentrick</b> <br /><small>Member # 64</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,28,1,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 28, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:02 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I can't name any more novels, but I know some short stories.<P>Larry Niven has done one or two in the Known Space setting, some featuring the A.R.M. [I read a *lot* of his stuff many years ago, and now cn't recall all the titles. There was one where the killer {in a pacified future-Earth where murder is uncommon} had used an antique firearm, something from the 21st Century.] I believe there was something called "Borderlands of Sol," about missing ships, and a Louis Wu adventure involving a kidnapped Kdatlyno artist.<P><BR>Also, there was a paperback collection of stories years ago called "Whatdunnit?"<P>I never found that one, but local library had "More Whatdunnits," which included a story about time travel, a crime-solving robot, a locked-room mystery, etc. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The First One</b> <br /><small>Member # 35</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,28,5,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 28, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:45 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *slaps himself repeatedly around the head with a large trout*<P>Damn! <i>The Long Arm of Gil Hamilton</i> was a collection of three stories featuring United Nations ARM cop Gil Hamilton who fights organlegging crime. . . there was also a separate novella printed, <i>The Patchwork Girl</i>. By <b>Larry Niven</b>, as Xentrick has said.<P>Oh, yes! More! <b>Greg Bear</b>, <i>Queen of Angels</i> and <i>Slant</i>. These follow a Public Defender named Mary Choy investigating crimes in a world where nanotechnology rules, Artificial Intelligence is just being established and just about everyone is Therapied to prevent such crimes. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Xentrick</b> <br /><small>Member # 64</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,30,0,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 30, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:02 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I read a book years ago called "When Gravity Fails," by Effinger. The story is cyberpunk in the Middle East and the reluctant hero gets a lot of cranial wetware added to chase a killer.<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Saiyanman Benjita</b> <br /><small>Member # 122</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,6,30,20,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">July 30, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:02 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Sorry, can't help you.<P>------------------<BR>Right, cheers, thanks a lot-Patsy Stone "Ab-Fab"<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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