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Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :

After playing through Fallout, a very good RPG by the way, i got to thinking about all the post-apocalyptic universes that have been created out there. Which do you think is the best depiction of the end of the world? the worst? did both Waterworld and Postman REALLY suck or only Kinda suck. Is a desert wasteland more convincing than nuclear winter or vice versa?
by now your probably wondering if there's a point to all this. and there isn't, i'm just curious about what people think.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Depends on how your world ended, doesn't it?

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

I liked "Waterworld" ... water cool. I find it kinda hard to believe that this big huge oil tanker survived and no big kick-ass warships did ... but ah well

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Yes, the legacy of the Exxon Valdez lived on....
I thought the name was great...

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

Personally "The Day After" and "Threads" worked for me.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

"The Day After?" Mouldering rednecks bemoaning the loss of their consumer goods. 'Nuff said.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

I like "Dune".

No, seriously, Dune depicts the advancement of humankind into the universe, after nearly being exterminated by thinking machines they rose and emigrated, taking with them the "Butlerian Jihad", the crusade against intelligent technology. 8000 years later, the Kwizatz Haderach, the supreme being, is born.

The state of humankind in "Dune", in all it's mutated forms, is a very rich legacy and, I think, one of the most promising futures. Although many cultures and civilisations are very narrow-minded and corrupted, that will probably always be the case of some percentage of the overall population.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Ah yes, the Butlerian Jihad, started when the massive population of manservants had their livelihoods threatened by the development of the robo-butler. . .

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :

I think anime has a lot to offer on the subject of post-apocalyptic stories, varying in realism. My favourites are "Fist of the North Star" and "Wind of Amnesia", but there are some other good ones out there that I just can't think of right now.

I thought The Postman started off pretty good but wasn't brilliant overall. Waterworld was ok except for some unnecessarily stupid parts.

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Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :

Yeah, while Postman was interesting in premise, it just didn't work for me. A little too far fetched with the downfall of the government a little too close to the present time. If it took place 30 or 40 years later, then that would be cool. But was Tom Petty really necessary.

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

I've seen "Wind of Amnesia". That was a good anime.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Best anime apocalypses? "Appleseed," "Dominion Tank Police," "Naussicaa," & of COURSE "Neon Genesis Evangelion."

For a great postwar concept, read "Warday" by Whitley Streiber & James Kunetka. Written in 1984, it postulates a 20-minute exchange between superpowers on 28 October 1988. The book is first person accounts of the both of them as they travel the nation 5 years after to see what's become of America. It is a MOST powerful book, & I HATE Streiber's other shit. everytime I stop reading it, I have to remind myself that this is NOT how the world is.

It's available at Alibris last time I checked.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Hiroshima by John Hersey.

Best ... no, worst of all it's a true story. Told through the memories of those who survived. "This timeless, powerful, and compassionate document has become a classic that stirs the conscience of humanity." (The New York Times

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