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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Alrighty, gents, I've just started watching some reruns (presumably) of SG1 on my local Fox station and am rapidly becomming a fan. I've been able to figure out a few things based on what I've seen and the movie, but I was hoping you could clear up some things for me. So tell me if I've got this straight:

The Stargates and DHD's: series of portals set up throughout the galaxy by the G'ould to allow them to conquer and enslave races. Used by the SG teams to explore the galaxy. Do the SG teams have any other agenda for the Stargates?

The G'ould: I've only ever seen them as little winged worms called larva, so I'm assuming they grow into something else. An alien race that uses others as hosts. When the larva develop, they take over that person's body and mind totally, right? They set themselves up as God's on various worlds because of their powers and technology. Apparently, several members of the SG1 team have at one time been host to a larva.

The J'fa: The warriors and protectors of the G'ould. T'ealc was one. They all are hosts to larva G'oulds. What happens to them once the Gould larva develop?

The Asgard: Little grey aliens that the G'ould fear. In one ep, the Asgard seemed unwilling to get involved with the Human's fight against the G'ould, but in another, they came running as soon as they heard that Earth had been invaded. So I can't really figure them out.

The System Lords: The head honchos of the G'ould. I guess they are the leaders and they all dress really weird.

Care to fill in any of the missing pieces for me? I'm sure there are a few...

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :

The Stargates and DHD's: series of portals set up throughout the galaxy by the G'ould to allow them to conquer and enslave races. Used by the SG teams to explore the galaxy. Do the SG teams have any other agenda for the Stargates?

I'm not sure if the stargates were created by the Goa'Uld, I think it may have been an even older race. The stargates can go to other galaxies as well, with the 8th chevron. The teams just explore, using the gates, but bases are being set up on some worlds for scientific purposes.

Well, the adult Goa'Uld look similar, except they control the host. I think they actually consider themselves superior to all other life. Carter has been host, temporarily to one of the "good" Goa'Uld (can't remember the name), and Carter's father became host (in order to survive a cancer) to one of the leaders of this rebel Goa'Uld movement.

The J'fa: The warriors and protectors of the G'ould. T'ealc was one. They all are hosts to larva G'oulds. What happens to them once the Gould larva develop?

I'm not sure, but I think they are then removed and put into another host, presumably with the loss of the J'fa's life.

The Asgaard seem to be having trouble with some kind of mechanical insect-like lifeform, but other than that, I'm not sure either

The System Lords: The head honchos of the G'ould. I guess they are the leaders and they all dress really weird.

Yep, they've got some kind of primitive political hierarchy, and betrayal is common, with alliances being formed and broken routinely.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Ah, so then Ra, from the movie, was just one of the Goa'Uld who had set up shop on Earth at one point and eventually on the planet they visited in the movie.

O'Niel was host to on called "Hathor" but I don't think it ever took hold. They got it out before it integrated.

Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :

Here's a link I just found, which has synopses of the main events of the episodes in each season.
Stargate episode synopses

As a matter of interest, is there something like this for Star Trek?

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Both SG-1 and ST have a zillion webpages full of episode info. It's just that the quality varies within broad limits. I haven't encountered complete episode guides of either show, of high enough quality for me to recommend them to anybody...

As for Aban's questions, it's great to have another potential fan nibbling the bait:

The SG teams were founded mostly with the twin agendas of helping Earth prepare against a Goa'uld invasion by finding new allies and technologies, and establishing contact with all the Earth humans taken as slaves and distributed across the galaxy. Or that's where the funding comes from anyway. On the side, the teams do some basic research as well, but poor Daniel is always getting shortchanged on that. There are specialized teams - SG-1 is the prime contact team, but there are fire support, medical research, diplomacy and construction teams as well. The writers are being at least semi-consistent about which team does what.

The Goa'uld apparently did NOT build the gates, since there are gates out there the Goa'uld maps (as found on Abydos) know nothing about. The Asgard once stated that there were four ancient races: themselves, the Nox, the Furlings, and the Ancients who built the gates. We've seen the Nox, and in "Torments of Tantalus" we saw an ancient meeting place of the four races, unknown to the Goa'uld.

The Jaffa supposedly die soon after removal of the little worm. But another one can be substituted before that happens. Jaffa are "trusted slaves" who are allowed to care for the baby worms, but aren't allowed to become hosts to adult ones - that would be too much of an honor.

The Asgard claim to be older and more powerful than the Goa'uld, and they have indeed kicked Goa'uld ass in every encounter. So these mechanical critters, or Replicators, must be a grave danger indeed to keep them preoccupied.

And Ra apparently was a pretty important figure in Goa'uld circles, since he supposedly opened up the human slave/Jaffa/host trade. Before Ra, the Goa'uld were using some sort of alien critters we saw briefly in "Tor's Hammer", but those were dying out when Ra stumbled upon the humans of Earth.

We don't know how or when Ra arrived, but since there was another gate on Earth in addition to the one Ra had used ("Solitudes"), and Ra didn't use that one once the Egyptians buried the one he had been using, one would guess somebody else had been to Earth as well. Perhaps a competing Goa'uld (at least two others have been living on Earth), or perhaps an Ancient?

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I saw the ep where they found the second Stargate on Earth, and one of the System Lords demanded that both be returned when they were negotiating with O'Niel and whoever else.

So, the Jaffa and the Goa'uld (I keep spelling this wrong) are actually humans that have the worms in them, right?

Yah. I really like the feel of the show. It's seems like it could have a great backstory and a lot of history to develop. Uncovering the true origin of the Gates, seeing how various cultures have dealt with this huge ring sitting in the middle of a field....

Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

I like the show, only seen eps here and there since coverage was/is spotty around here airing the series.
I know of a site that sells them on tape (legally I think) but have yet to buy any.

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

I forgot to mention that there's a pretty nifty forum for discussing SG-1 at www.gaters.net. No actual episode synopses there, but plenty of discussion, nicely divided into spoiler-free zones so that you can discuss each season separately. Beware of a veteran member named Goa'uld - he has all the manners of his namesake! But the discussion in general is very interesting, especially the parts about how SG-1 tangents with real ancient cultures and legends... There are also some good links there.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Anyone know of any good HIGHLANDER forums out there, by chance?

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Don't know if they're good or not... http://google.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=highlander+forums&hc=0&hs=0

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Posted by Boult (Member # 1269) on :

Timo,

you posted a url to a stargate forum were kinda screwed due to a period at end of url.. which caused me to be thrown into a loops..
here is the working url... http://www.gaters.net/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi

Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Don't you hate it when that happens? I saw the last post and deleted the period. A UBB board too? Cool.

Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

It looks like one from the url, but I keep getting "cannot find server" off it. grrrr

Posted by StarMan on :

I think one of SG-1's big advantage's is having such a small core cast, only half of Voyager. It allows the writers to focus in on each character more so than on a larger ensemmble cast.

IMO the series continues to get better and better. In New Zealand we are up to episode 19 of season 4, possibly the best to date IMO. There are very, very few episodes I do not enjoy. The large majority of stories are compelling and enjoyable to watch. The acting is great, especially Anderson's dry, sarcastic potrayal of O'Neil. And to top it off the series has amazing CGI. It doesn't have the same amount as Voyager does, but when it does have it, it is certainly just as good, if not better.

And TLE, I like the squash sig/rank thinge you've got.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I like the fact that the show apparently has alot of carry over stories from season to season. Everything kind of ties in.

Here's a new question: Who is Apophys? I know Tealc used to be his number one Jaffa, but what is his position in the Goauld hierarchy?

In the ep I just saw, he was on some Hell planet with a way messed up face. Some other Goauld, a higher up one, tried to kill him.

Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Apophis is, like, the main baddie, one of the System Lords. Fairly early on he was thought to have died (as a result of treachery by another SL?) but now - I'm not entirely clear how - is back and in the ascendant.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Thanks StarMan.

I got the url to work. Hmmm I spammed the hell out of the place before realizing how slow there were.