Com'on people! If you didn't expect this thread to pop up sooner or later, your an idiot! Anyways I nomitnate Cube, Congo, The night of the Lepus, and The Blob (Both the 1988 version and the 1950s version).
Please people! Don't point out the one obvious bad sci-fi movie! (Star Trek V: Shatner's Ego Trip)
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Capricorn One The Matrix Contact Sphere Battlefield Earth I Come In Peace Starship Troopers
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Some real cringers:
StarCrash the Hasselhoff
Cyborg It swould be hard to single out just one.
Johnny Mnemonic Please don't speak, Keanu. Ever.
Supernova Robin Tunney and high production value is not enough.
Nemesis II,III Steroids are bad Mmm-K?.
Event Horizon Laughable dialogue. A total waste of good talent.
It was very hard not to mention ST5, MIB. It's just so obvious.
Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
Beowulf Virus Deep Rising Crossworlds (Well, anything by Rutger Hauer the last years)
The list could go on for a while...
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Err, Starship troopers, The Matrix, Contact, and Capricorn One should be on 'the best sci-fi movies list'.
Does this 'worst movies list' excluse sequels? I think it should otherwise I and everyone else will compile marathon lists.
A few though from the last couple of years or so:
The Lost World Deep Impact ID4 All anime/pokemon style shit ever made
(sorry anime fans, I just hate cartoons that try to be serious. They have as much credibility as Tom and Jerry)
oh yeh, 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier' (you didn't say no Trek)
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
I agree with Nimrod. Virus, from what I know about the movie, was just a rip off of ST: First Contact.
The Red Admiral. Starship troopers should be on the best sci-fi movies ever made list you say?!?!?! I'll give you 5 seconds to get out of my sight or I'll take this shotgun and blow you away with it! 1.........2.........
[ June 19, 2001: Message edited by: MIB ]
Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
starship troopers? ugh. fun, but not what i call "fine cinema".
um let's see...so many to choose from... Arrival (sorry MIB) Star Wars Episode 1 Jurassic park 2: Lost World Alien 4: Ressurection Sphere (terrible, terrible, terrible ending, but then the book was ruined by that too) Johnny Mnemonic- i totally agree about keanu anything from MST3k, but i guess that's obvious Godzilla (the broderick one, it somehow works when they're deliberately being cheesy. This one does not) Robocops 2 and 3 Demolition Man on and on and on and on and on.
when i think of more i'll be sure to post.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Oh please. Almost none of the films listed qualify as the worst ever.
Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
And none of the films in the Best are really the "BEST" either. maybe we should change the title to "mediocre at best" sci-fi movies. Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Making Mr. Right. That is definitely the worst film ever. *shudder*
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
No alright, I concede MIB and Vanguard, Troopers is not 'fine cinema' but the reason I wouldn't have it on a 'worst sci-fi movie list' is that I thought it was so damn fun. Sorry, but that's the way I found it. But I'm not a heathen dumbass, I enjoy intelligent sci-fi far more, such as Solaris, 2001 et al.
But to add to some other horrible sci-fi films, without been roasted may I quote the likes of:
Star Wars TPM ( I sincerely concur Vanguard) Lost in Space Judge Dredd Wing Commander (just couldn't get into it, ended up hating it. S:AaB was better)
..and about 90% of all sci-fi sequels
Posted by Wes1701E (Member # 212) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Red Admiral: Err, Starship troopers, The Matrix, Contact, and Capricorn One should be on 'the best sci-fi movies list'.
Does this 'worst movies list' excluse sequels? I think it should otherwise I and everyone else will compile marathon lists.
A few though from the last couple of years or so:
The Lost World Deep Impact ID4 All anime/pokemon style shit ever made
(sorry anime fans, I just hate cartoons that try to be serious. They have as much credibility as Tom and Jerry)
oh yeh, 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier' (you didn't say no Trek)
You couldnt be more right. although, I didnt think Star Trek 5 was all that bad. Star Trek 3 was worse for me.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Well Wes, in my opinion STIII outclassed STV for the reason that it returned Spock to us. But it was more of a fill-in between II and IV, and no, it wasn't a great movie and no, the production values were not too hot.
But The Final Frontier lost all sense of....well, sense, basically. This was after about 5 minutes, and therein it continued to stink more and more. The centre of the Galaxy in the blink of an eye, 79 decks, and God...!? I mean come on. GR hated it, and wanted it de-canonized, and I applaud him for that! lol
Like others I long ago observed the general trend that all odd numbered movies were the weaker ones, and with the hype of Insurrection I just knew in my heart of hearts it just wasn't gunna cut it. But I watched it hoping the hoodoo would have been broken, but, errr, no. If anything it was strengthened. Luckily now, we're in the luxurious position in having far less anxiety with the new Trek X. May it delight and succeed as previous even numbered movies have!!
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
I don't know. I personnally liked ST IX. It wasn't quite as good as First Contact, but it IS the best odd numbered trek film to date. In all honesty, I liked Insurrection more than some of the even number movies too!
So GR tried to get STV to be de-cannonized. GOOD. I'm glad he tryed. A group of retarded monkeys could have done a better job when it comes to STV.
Has anyone heard any updates on the revised edition of Star Trek TMP? You know, I heard that once revisions are done with TMP, that Paramount is going to be doing it with the rest of the ST films too. So maybe. JUST maybe. STV won't be QUITE as shitty as it is now once the revisions have been made.
Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
*sniff* What's wrong with anime? You HAVE seen GW, right? *sigh* Oh well...to each his own...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Hang on:
"Please people! Don't point out the one obvious bad sci-fi movie! (Star Trek V: Shatner's Ego Trip)"
And later:
"oh yeh, 'Star Trek V: The Final Frontier' (you didn't say no Trek)"
Nice to see people read nowadays.
And you may slag off STV for not making any sense, but He-Man rarely made sense either. It was still entertaining. And I'd rather watch STV than TMP. One's awful and fun. The other's slow and boring.
"All anime/pokemon style shit ever made
(sorry anime fans, I just hate cartoons that try to be serious. They have as much credibility as Tom and Jerry)"
To you. I'm not getting into this, but...that statement is wrong on so many levels. You are basically saying that all serious cartoons are shit, because they're serious? Even American ones? Stunning logic there.
Besides, you kinda ruined your own argument when you called Pokemon "serious". Pokemon isn't serious. It's about cute little animals beating the shit out of each other, while repeating their own names over and over. It's completely mad.
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
Ah yes. When it comes to cock fights involving pokemon, collateral damage is assured. LOL. Hey! Why the hell are pokemon cock fights legal while chickens aren't allowed to kill each other in a box?
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
Oh my how times come and go....
Plan 9 from Outer Space (1958) (and just about anything else from Ed Wood) Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
That great entity known as the Internet Movie Database lists the bottom 10 Sci Fi movies thusly:
Bottom 10 Sci-Fi movies
10 Yusei oji (Invaders From Space) (1959) 1.6/10 (191 votes) 9 Monster a-Go Go (1965) 1.6/10 (185 votes) 8 L'Uomo puma (The Puma Man) (1980) 1.6/10 (359 votes) 7 Space Mutiny (1988) 1.5/10 (643 votes) 6 Eye Creatures, The (1965) 1.5/10 (191 votes) 5 Los Nuevos extraterrestres (Extra Terrestrial Visitors AKA The Pod People) 1.5/10 (290 votes) 4 Future War (1995) 1.5/10 (501 votes) 3 Uchu Kaisoku-sen (Invasion from a Planet AKA Invasion of the Neptune Men) 1.5/10 (155 votes) 2 Zaat (1972) 1.4/10 (214 votes) 1 Hobgoblins (1987) 1.4/10 (815 votes)
[ July 01, 2001: Message edited by: Jay the Obscure ]
Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
Ooh phoey... now I HAVE to watch Hobgoblins! Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
MIB hated Cube? Oh, you're gonna pay for that...
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I thought Pod People was much worse than Hobgoblins, actually.
"Trumpy, you can do magic!"
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
PsyLiam, I meant the statement regarding anime as tongue-in-cheek in all honesty. No, I don't like it, I just think it's all too far fetched and pretentious. That's my taste though, I mean no offence to anyone who enjoys the genre. I have nothing against caroons or sci-fi cartoons, if they're good and compelling I'd enjoy them for what they are. Does anyone remember that really cool cartoon series from years ago called 'Ulysses 31'? Now that I recall fondly.
Oh, and one other thing, I like TMP, simply because I was so delighted at the time that there was a Star Trek movie, so much so that I ignored how poor it really was. That's stuck in my subconscious, and every time I watch it now it's like seeing it for the first time; seeing old friends return.
So strangley I prefer TMP over all other 'poor' odd numbered movies, ie in reference to how much 'personal' enjoyment I take out of the film.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Ulysees, Ulysees. Searching through all the galaxies. *somthing* truth, flying into the night.
That one?
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Yes yes!! That's the one. I liked that show! I can't remember the exact plot, but it seems similar to Andromeda. ie, a guy and his estranged crew go in hunt of his lost civilization or something. I just can't remember, it must be 20 years ago now. I'm still waiting for reruns on the Sci-fi Channel (UK Cable) or the cartoon network or something
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
There is nothing wrong with anime, not the less serious ones at least.
And the Amerian version of Godzilla did stink, story wise. The visuals were nice though.
What's wrong with Independence Day? Weren't you glad to see the White House go boom? Besides, Mars Attacks was worse.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
The Matrix was one of the best sci-fi movies ever made. Mars Attacks was at least funny. Star Wars TPM would be great without Jar Jar. ID4 had very good special effects, but not writing (Would a president say, "Sure! I'll go up and blow the bleeping aliens to Hell myself!) And Insurrection sucked. The Lost World was OK too, just a little tired. Those are my opinions. A bad sci-fi movie? Virus, Starship Troopers, and a lot of others.
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
Hobgoblins. I have that on tape! What I mean is that I have the MST3K episode with hobgolins in it on tape. Did anyone ever figure out what that crappy band was singing at Club Scum?
Something tells my that everyone involved in that movie are probably working at either Wendy's, Burger King, or McDonalds today......
Posted by Alshrim (Member # 258) on :
Tron Mars Attacks (FROMAGE!) Universal Soldiers Moontrap (Sadly a Walter Koenig Film) 12 monkeys 5th Element Batman II thru however long they're gonna drag it out. Tremors (all of them) Highlander II + The Mummy Movies
Movies that should not be there:
Matrix ID4
These are classics.
Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
Bah, I'm sick of mummy bashing. does anyone actually watch those movies for the plot? What they do good is action. And that's why I watch it. Not for no damn history lesson. bah.
Mindless action, a misunderstood genre. same with ID4, plot and acting wise-p.u. but action. Rock on!
of course you still CAN screw up a mindless action movie. godzilla for one. don't know why, but alcohol is the only thing that gets me through that one.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Actually, I thought the Mummy (while being creative with history) was a very good movie in terms of story, pacing, etc.
However, the sequel was horrible. Completely, 100% unwatchable. Ick. Ugh. Selma!
Bad popcorn movies do a Liam riot make.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Jeff has apparently mistaken me for The Rock.
Which is ludicrious.
Now, I'm going to go and cook something.
Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: However, the sequel was horrible. Completely, 100% unwatchable. Ick. Ugh. Selma!
meh, it had rachel weisz, i have a thing for british brunettes, so it had its merits.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
No, it didn't. It was horrible trash. You want Rachel Weisz? Go watch Enemy at the Gates.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Whoa, MIB. What other months-old thread have you reignited? And who said this thing about ID4 being a classic? You saying Bill Pullman is in the same league as, say, Jimmy Stewart? Oh, by the way, Malnurtured Snay, take a peek at the "Unbreakable" thread in this section. You never responded to be "MeGotBeer" bashing I gave you there so long ago. Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Enemy at the Gates? I've seen better movies projected on the sides of meat-processing plants.
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I rented that movie with high hopes. The fact that the story was told in a first person perspective and the person who was telling the story was stoned through out the ENTIRE movie made it rather painful to watch. And boring. And vomit inducing. Yeah. It was a vomit inducing experience!
One movie I noticed that nobody mentioned was The American version of Godzilla made back in, what? '96? '97? Terrible movie. ick...
What about Blade? What the hell was that about? There were plot holes large enough to fly entire planets through in that movie.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
*boggles*
You're complaining about Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas having too many instances of drug use in it? I suppose you thought Apocalypse Now spent too much time in that dreary Vietnam place.
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
No. Not that it had to much drug use in. My bitching stems from the fact that the narrator in the movie was stoned out of his mind through out the entire movie. There wasn't a single moment in which he was sober. This, plus the fact that the movie made no sense to me whatsoever and that I didn't pick up any clear point to the movie.
Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :
Don't remind me MIB, I spend 12 Canadian bucks to watch Gozzila 2000.
Oh my gawd! That film was sooooooo horrible, and the dub don't even match!
I don't know what I was thinking when I bought the ticket!
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
And this still doesn't explain why Jeff thinks that I am the peoples champion at any rate.
I think there's a place in this world for big budget films with paper-thin plots, paper-thin characters saying mildly amusing lines, and over-the-top set pieces where the SFX cost more than most countires GNP in a year.
I just wouldn't make them my favourites.
I'm also trying to come up with some sort of defence for liking the Powerpuff Girls and Transformers, and failing. Damn you all. Just Bring It!
Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
Well Godzilla 2000 was an obvious attempt at camp (for a detailed discussion on what is "camp" just watch the simpson episode with john waters).
As such, though I didn't watch Godzilla 2000 (but i did see reviews and commercials), it appeared to me that it was a throwback to the Godzilla movies of yore. You know, cheesey costume, weak fx, and a yes, bad dubbing. But hey, some people get their jollies from that. I'm guessing it was playing to that crowd (i.e. the mst3k groupies).
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
I can't believe the list got this long without someone mentioning the complete dud from this summer "AI" . What a peice of crap that was, I actually wasted not only my own admission price but I paid for my kid too. Paul
Posted by Alshrim (Member # 258) on :
ID4 is a classic - Pullman wasn't .. but the movie was great.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Um... No. It wasn't.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Although I wouldn't scream and cry if I saw it happen in the film, I think now the images of buildings blowing up would bring back memories of September 11... Which is why FOX did not show it the Sunday after.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Was FOX supposed to ... ?
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Yes...
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Probably a good call... It's still kind of unbelievable.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Armageddon is a movie that won't be shown for while either, the WTCs get wasted as I recall, which is eerie.
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
Forgive my ignorance but - what is ID4 all about and when was it released?
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
ID4, short for Independance Day was released in 1994, '95, or '95. I'm not really sure exactly when. It's a typical alien invasion movie, only this one features Area 51!!! Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Not the WTC ... the Empire State Building gets creamed.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
In Armageddon you mean...? No (I think), it was the good ole Chrysler Building that was toppled, not the Empire State - that was in ID4 (which was released in 1996 BTW). But in Armageddon both World Trade Centre towers were totally smashed and left in ruin, since Sept 11th that eerie, almost ironically prophetic motion picture image is burned in my mind.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Wasn't there a large number of destroyed buildings in Armegedeon?
Besides, considering the 90s Hollywood trend for blowing up real places, rather than fake ones, the odds were that something would get destroyed that had been destroyed in a film.
Japan had better hope that Tokyo Tower never gets blown up. That would render 90% of their film and anime output unshowable.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Chrysler building in Armageddon, and the MetLife building in ID4 I believe.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
quote: I'm also trying to come up with some sort of defence for liking the Powerpuff Girls and Transformers, and failing. Damn you all. Just Bring It!
It's a Mojo Jojo thing.
We need a smilie with a turban on top! That one in brown, with a nice white turban, or maybe , "I am Mojo Jojo, and I am going to the store to get the eggs, so that I may have a compltete breakfast, and then make a plan to destry the Powerpuff Girls!
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
That egg disaster really made me feel for him. Two eggs are required fora nutricious breakfast, and he had but one, so how ws he suppossed to get his required nutrition without a second egg? Curses.
It doesn't help me with Transformers though. People don't tend to overtalk in that.
Thinking about it, a "Puff" smilie should be really easy to do. Hmm...
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
As long as the one for Buttercup automatically plays Shonen Knife, we'll be cool.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
mojo doesn't wear a turban, he wears a helmet that holds his brain in and protects it (though it never holds much structural integrity in the back after the girls are done with him. turbans don't get screwed on.
--jacob
[ November 29, 2001: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EdipisReks: [QB]mojo doesn't wear a turban, he wears a helmet that holds his brain in and protects it (though it never holds much structural integrity in the back after the girls are done with him). turbans don't get screwed on.
--jacob
Posted by G.K Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
Quoting ourselves, are we? Rather full of ourselves, are we? ;-)
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Student of Yoda, are we?
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
GL: 'Could you talk... forwards?'
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Finished talking in Yoda speak, are we, hmmmmmm? Anger and aggresion I sense in Flare memebers, yes.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Spelling bad I sense in Veers, hmmm....
Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
Out loud I laugh. hahahaha.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
The359, the Metlife building was smashed and ruined in Godzilla, not in ID4 to my recollection.
That one in brown, with a nice white turban, or maybe 
, "I am Mojo Jojo, and I am going to the store to get the eggs, so that I may have a compltete breakfast, and then make a plan to destry the Powerpuff Girls!