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Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
 
I went down to the Salvation Army on my break at Whole Foods a couple months ago on a whim, and found a real gem, a Transformers shirt. It was sized L, but i found that i can get away with wearing size L and even M since i lost all the weight when i was ill over the winter (i pretty much lost my man-boobs and am toning up from working my arms a lot at my night job..)

But anywho,

I can't figure out the Transformer on it, which isnt surprising since I pretty much stopped watching Transformers some time after the movie, but before the advent of stupid shows when it lost the message the creators were going for (the message, of course, being that sometimes robots change into cars, and vice versa. i was disapointed and appalled when robots started changing into monkeys and shit like that .. WTF?its not right..)

but anywho, i assume its a decepticon (the front of the shirt is a huge decepticon logo with the silhouette of a robot in front of it.) but most of my more Transformers informed friends havent been able to tell me who has spikes like that, unless its an obvious one and we all dont remember.

i traced the silhouette:
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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
quote:
the message, of course, being that sometimes robots change into cars, and vice versa. i was disapointed and appalled when robots started changing into monkeys and shit like that .. WTF?its not right..)

Of course, I'm not going to point out that many original Transformers also transformed into non-car things. Like planes. And hi-fis. And animals. And I'm certainly not going to point out that Beast Wars pissed on the original Transformers series from a great height in terms of, well, pretty much everything. And that the "OPTIMUZ IS A TRUCK NOT A MONKEEYYYYY!" argument is about as tired and wrong as saying (circa 1989) "THE ENTERPRIZE IS KIRKS NOT PIKRD WHO IS BLAD!". Or something.

So... I have no idea. I certainly don't recall anyone with spike's like that. The head is vaguely like Scorponok's, but the body is nothing like it. It's also very angular. It doesn't look like the standard Romaata Snr-type picture certainly.

It is holding two guns, so it's possible it's one of the more obscure double-Targetmasters from around 1991. But it doesn't match the ones I know.
 
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
 
It's either one of those fancy lad Japanese Destron characters, or a highly stylized Scorponok, or Black Zarack (Whom is a Destron, anyway).

Check out The Transformer Box Art Archive as if it exists, they probably have it.

Although, if it exists only in silhouette, there's no reason for it to be real. It quite possibly is a generic "bad" looking guy, who is all evil with spikes of evil and probably growls a lot.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Black Zarak was the same as Scorponok, except for the head.
 
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
 
Well, yes.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Hmm. I meant to write more than that. Why didn't I?
 
Posted by Thoughtcancer (Member # 480) on :
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1762438365

It is not the one above, but still.
 
Posted by Captain-class, Mike-variant (Member # 709) on :
 
quote:
Posted by Lame eBay seller:His main body is in good tight condition.
How does he know of my fantasy!?

BTW, i became mad when transformers started transforming into non-mechanical objects. doesnt seem congruent to me. and chagning into a furry pile of crap is different that changing into a robot that looks like a dinosaur. machines dont need fur and to crap in woods!
 
Posted by Thoughtcancer (Member # 480) on :
 
Grimlock was a stroke of genius, though. He was cool both as Robot and as Dinosaur. Plus, he is the only Transformer to curse. "Grimlock kicks Ass!"

I'll bet Starscream would have said a dirty word after Galvatron blasted him, but he was obviously in too much pain to speak. Poor Starscream. All he wanted was to rule the Decepticons.
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
The people selling high-priced Fort Maxes are going to be pissed.

They're being reissued. For $100.00
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
$280 is pretty good for a complete Fort Max actually. I've seen them got for $500. Madness.

Fort Max was rereleased in Japan as Brave Maximus for the Car Robots line. Or Grand Maximus. One of them. And since Hasbro ported that line over for "Robots in Diguise", there have bene rumours about releasing him for ages.

The problem is that big toys don't sell. No-one bought Supreme Cheetor, although that's possibly because he was an annoying bastard in Beast machines. Period. Although I think Toys R Us are selling the giant Primal, which is okay, as he's a far better toy.

I think that the rereleased Fort Max is also going to be a Toys R Us exclusive though. Pft. I'm not bothered. He's a big toy, but he's not much else.

Now, a rereleased Jetfire...that I'd kill for.
 
Posted by Thoughtcancer (Member # 480) on :
 
The local comic book shop has Ironhide in an original unopened box going for $150.00...which is approximately one thousand times what I would willingly pay for it.

Buying collectable things is more of a state of mind than anything else...how much you'll pay for something is directly related to how much extra money you have, and how much effort you went through to get that money, and peer pressure.

I once bought a NM copy of Hulk #181 (which for you pagan savages was the first appearance of Wolverine) for 120.00$'s. I felt like a total asshole for buying it later, mostly due to the fact that it had taken me six weeks to save up the money for it, and I didn't even get a coke or some doritos with it.

Plus, who can you trust with it? Nobody. Nobody can touch it, let alone read it. Hell, nobody can even LOOK at it too long, lest the luster of the cover be damaged by their dirty, ignorant stare.

And then you have the humilation factor that comes in when you announce how much you paid for it...they can never understand how or why you would have "blown" all that cash on twenty-two pages of four color art...(rather uninspired art at that. I know demented three-year-olds prone to epileptic fits that can draw more convincing human forms than Herb Trimpe, the artist of that issue)

So my "Investment"--the one that would put me through college, if that tells you how full of shit I was back then--ends up being put in a safety deposit box along with other nearly worthless crap I have that crack addled fiends might steal.

So. I will probably never buy any expensive collector type stuff again.

That is, unless I think I can sell it for a huge profit on ebay.
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
The trick is to buy it BEFORE it becomes a collector's item.

But figuring out what's going to BE a big collector's item, that's hard.

Couple weeks ago, I sold a dozen What IF? V1's (duplicates) for $60 in-store credit (and I was only asking half of what the store guy could sell them for, because I originally got them for cover price.)
 
Posted by Captain-class, Mike-variant (Member # 709) on :
 
yeah, theres no surefire way to buy a collectible.. during my teen years, the hottest collectibles were Beavis & Butthead comics, POGs and Beanie Babies.. all three of which i was selling at the flea market for a dollar each.

But my Spider-Man comics are getting great prices, even though everyone sold them off after the sales crashed during the Spider-Clone saga.. go figure.

So basically, be a flake and buy a bunch of shit and some of it will go up. Im happy i actually got $50 for Star Wars #107 a few years ago.. no idea if the value surpassed that, but the X-Men/Teen Titans i got in a trade went down to a third of its former value beforei sold it last week

its like a really fucking geeky stock market.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Ironhide was a bad toy. Evil.

To be honest, most of the G1 Transformers were bad "toys". They had horrible robot modes, and broke if you entered a room in a funny way. The first ones though had that die cast metal thing, and realistic vehicles/equipment thing going for them. By the time we got to Headmasters and whatnot, they toys were a bit better to play with (in some cases), but they didn't look as nice. And by the early 90s, blind monkeys seemed to be in charge of the colour schemes. Pity, as Laser rod Optimus Prime is a really good toy.

Say what you will of Beast Wars (and most will say "Pr!M3 iZ a TruK n0T @ M0nKEY!!!!!!", but there were some really, really nice toys there. The Transmetals looked cool and had great transformations, and Dragon Megatron is one of the few transformers that can cause even people who dislike the toys to exclaim "Wow, that's cool".

Herb Trimble wasn't too bad. At least he stayed with the comic for more than 12 issues, which is a rare thing with Hulk. And he was seven billion times better than that Angel whatzizsname who drew the "Ghosts of the Future" storyline. Tiny heads abounded there. Scary tiny heads.
 
Posted by Thoughtcancer (Member # 480) on :
 
Listing the number of artists who are--to put it charitably, lacking inspiration, and to put it less charitably, sucking balls--that worked on the Hulk is like shooting elephants in a barrel.

I think that guy's name was Angel Medina. Nice line work, but yeah, the heads should have had Angels dancing on them.
 
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thoughtcancer:
I think that guy's name was Angel Medina. Nice line work, but yeah, the heads should have had Angels dancing on them.

Yeeow! Nice, TC.
 
Posted by Thoughtcancer (Member # 480) on :
 
Thanks. A bad pun is better than none.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I quite liked Garney's stuff. And Gibson, obviously.

Is John Romita Jnr still doing it?
 
Posted by Thoughtcancer (Member # 480) on :
 
Last I looked, Romita Jr. was on The Amazing Spider-man, with that Babylon 5 guy as the writer.

Good stuff, although it would have made a far greater splash five years ago. It's being far overshadowed in terms of quality by other creators...(of course, it's Spiderman we're talking about here...How good can it get?)

Kevin Smith will soon be taking the reigns of Spiderman...and I wonder why. After the star power of his name being on the book stops dazzling you, you realize that he's not doing anything all that great. In fact, his recent run on Green Arrow was at times borderline amateurish, with just so-so dialogue--one of his supposed strengths.

Not that I read comics. They're for kids.
 


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