... just arrived courtesy of Amazon.com and FedEx.
What's even MORE surprising? I got TWO copies! I'll give the second one to my sister. Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Oh. Harry Potter. Man, that was one tragic waste of a google search Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
... see this boot?
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Fight the machine, man!
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Fight the machine, man!
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
[grumble]stupid Harry Potter...[/grumble]
Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :
Sell it on ebay for 6 times its original price.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
I'm giving it to my sister.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
In an epic of speed reading, I just finished it. Having started this morning. And I didn't get up til 10 either. Got it cheap (�8.50) from Asda. Personally I thought having harry move like Neo was uneccessary.... Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
I hope that isn't what happens 'cuz I haven't read it yet!!!
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Don't worry, it isn't.
They all die horribly though, apart from Harry.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Harry Whatnow?
In interesting synergy, I picked up a book about Terry Gilliam's art and movies.
Because Britain is the fountainhead of the World's Publishing. See?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
It wouldn't happen to be "The Battle of Brazil," would it?
Anyway, off to that forum about things that involve magicians and the like, because it could use the traffic.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Wait! Dark Knights & Holy Fools.
Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
Its a shame when a group of grown men go out and read CHILDREN'S BOOKS.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
It is now nearly 11p.m. BST, and amazon.co.uk still have not shipped my copy of the book. Fortunately, I got it form the library today, but it's the US version.
Posted by Cartmaniac (Member # 256) on :
Merde! I prepare a long, witty response sarcastique d'extraordinnaire to grind his preconceptions to dust and what happens at la moment supreme? *crash*
Move in for the kill, Snay.
[ June 21, 2003, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Cartmaniac ]
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Yeah. How dare he assume that you're all grown men Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
You can all bitch and moan as much as you want, there's no denying the fact that the books were written for children. It's pretty sad that you all have the absolute lack of anything resembling a life. Lets talk at your level shall we? Sucks to be you!
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
there's no denying the fact that the books were written for children.
Just at a guess, I'd say that Madam Rowling doesn't really care who, specifically, reads them, so long as she makes another hundred mil.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
quote:You can all bitch and moan as much as you want, there's no denying the fact that the books were written for children. It's pretty sad that you all have the absolute lack of anything resembling a life. Lets talk at your level shall we? Sucks to be you!
And today Aneu-I'mafuckingbitchwhopostsonascififorumwebsiteandtellsotherpeopletheydon'thaveanylivesbecausemyshitdon'tstink-ureism made the #1 spot on the list of people Snay would most like to fuck up the ass with a splintered, petrified oak tree.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
You seem a bit stressed.
Posted by leuckinc (Member # 729) on :
Hey... Im too lazy to read the book. Anybody want to tell me about it?
Kinda like when my dad used to tell me stories (about him beating up a bear no less). Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
No I'm just sick and tired of these little snobs who label "Harry Potter" as a 'children's book' and deride those who enjoy 'em. Y'know what? Tom Clancy's stuff is 'adult', which essentially means that its a technical manual with characters. What our little "I want an oak tree in my anus" friend fails to realize is that Harry Potter is not The Berenstein Bears with wizards, but rather a compelling series of stories with characters and situations more appealing, more "escapist" if you will, then what can usually be found in so-called 'adult' fiction.
Posted by aneurysm (Member # 906) on :
Jeez calm down. Hit a sore spot didn't I? Feel free to indulge in your pleasure. I just think it's pretty sad. You need to take it a bit less seriously.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
You know what I think is pretty sad?
You coming in here saying that you think people who like Harry Potter are 'sad.' I think it's 'sad' that you don't have a life to the extent that you come in here to bash people who like Harry Potter. I think it's 'pretty sad that you have the absolute lack of anything resembling a life' giving you the time to wander into this forum and start talking trash.
I think it's a damn shame when you (I don't know if you're an adult or not) think you have the right to start talking about what people should or should not enjoy, and that you can determine who has a life and who doesn't based on that.
As a matter of fact, I DON'T have a life. I work two jobs 60-70 hours a week. During the school year, I go to school full time and work THREE jobs. I don't have TIME to have a life, and if you want to be a fucking asshole about what I choose to do with what very little and precious free time I have, that's abosofuckinglutely NOT fine with me, and you can come over and perform oral sex on me until your jaw is fucking rusted shut for all I care, but all I want to hear out of you is that, yes, you recognize you're a stupid shit, and yes, you won't bash Harry Potter and those who enjoy Harry Potter even if you personally don't, and, oh yes, you won't complain if the door smacks you in the ass on your way out.
FUCK MAN, can't you JUST FUCKING LET ME HAVE A LITTLE FUCKING ENJOYMENT EVERY NOW AND THEN WITHOUT COMING IN HERE GOING ALL "WOW LOOK AT ME I'M A RETARTED LITTLE FUCK BUT YOU LIKE HARRY POTTER SO I'M GOING TO BOOST MY SELF ESTEEM A LITTLE FUCKING BIT?"
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
This aneurysm guy is a bit of a dink.
This Snay guy is a bit of a dink.
Problem solved, according to the master.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
quote:Originally posted by aneurysm: Its a shame when a group of grown men go out and read CHILDREN'S BOOKS.
By that same token, I suppose it's a damn shame that I watch X-Men Evolution, Futurama, Family Guy, Zoids, SpongeBob SquarePants, Kim Possible, and Zoids New Century Zero. After all, they're all cartoons aired on such epitomes of cable television such as Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, and Disney Channel.
So, how about we do this, aneurysm? We let those individuals who wish to discuss Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in peace, and you can take your comments and stuff them in the nearest rubbish bin.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, honestly, watching "X-Men: Evolution" and "Spongebob Squarepants" is rather sad...
But I jest (barely). To address the issue at hand... On one side, we have people who read literature which, perhaps, was targeted mainly at an audience slightly younger than themselves.
On the opposing side, we have someone who spends his time on an Internet science-fiction message board complaining about strangers' tastes in literature.
I'll leave it up to the reader to decide which side of the debate has found far too little productive outlet for its spare time.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Oh, by the way, that does mean "stop, please".
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I am amused that the only two values for literary quality are Harry Potter and Tom Clancy. It is like: you can cut off an arm, or: gouge out one eye.
But I kid the books about wizards and submarines. I do not even know how to read. Books are for old people. It is video games and pornography for me. Also war coverage.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:Originally posted by aneurysm: Its a shame when a group of grown men go out and read CHILDREN'S BOOKS.
"No book is worth reading at the age of ten which is not equally worth reading at the age of fifty" - C.S. Lewis
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
1) I have no idea whatsoever why adults/teenagers shouldn't read childrens books from time to time. I mean really, what is wrong with it?
2) Back on opic- the book itself. I thought it was pretty good, actually. Darker than the previous one and I would argue the series is actually moving away from being a children's book. The death was well handled. I definitely think the last two have been better than the first 3; there's more of a feeling of the impending battle. The tension is certainly building up. And Harry is a teenager. and he's pissed off with almost everyone; the changes in his charecter are done well, although there isn't really as much change in the others.
3) The American version is 100 pages longer than the UK version. Due to larger line spacing and type. And illustrations. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Okay, since this thread has no spoiler warnings, and, so far, no spoilers, I just want to say that we should keep it that way. If anyone wants to talk about what specifically happens in the book, start a new thread w/ spoiler warnings.
This isn't aimed at anyone, BTW. It's just that I had someone asking about spoilers, because there were no warnings, and they didn't want to read the thread w/o knowing whether they would be exposed to something.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
I just meant this thread to say "Yay, it came out today, and I got two copies for the price of one, and I'm really jazzed!"
TSN, would you mind adding some $$$ to the thread title, por-favor?
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: TSN, would you mind adding some $$$ to the thread title, por-favor?
I think you can do that yourself as thread starter.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Charles put in an update that limits the time for an edit to two hours after posting.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
double post
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
quote:Originally posted by Siegfried: By that same token, I suppose it's a damn shame that I watch X-Men Evolution, Futurama, Family Guy, Zoids, SpongeBob SquarePants, Kim Possible, and Zoids New Century Zero. After all, they're all cartoons aired on such epitomes of cable television such as Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, and Disney Channel.
I dunno, Futurama and Family Guy are aimed more towards the college age (18-24 and beyond) males than anything as you would almost have to be that age to get half of the humor, and the fact that they are on "Adult Swim" on Cartoon Network. It also goes to say that with Futurama and Family Guy (I'm not sure about the others you mentioned, I dont watch them) that they don't mass produce toys aimed at children in support of such aforementioed media. The case with Harry Potter - of which I am neither bashing or defending; I'm only defending the two above mentioned - there is literally hundreds of different toys made solely for children as would indicate the target audience. Lego especially seems to have a corner on the Harry Potter market and all of those toys seem to be aimed at children upto age 12. On the other hand, the same can be said about some of the reissued Lego Legends that would be aimed at the adults now that originally had the sets 20 years ago.
Oh, and Spongebob is humorous and is highly infectous among college folk...especially females. If it were not for his annoying laugh the show, IMO, Spongebob falls a couple notches short of the classic Ren & Stimpy cartoons of a few years back.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Except that "Ren & Stimpy" was funny.
Also, I will not add spoiler warnings to the thread title, since, as I already said, this thread should remain spoiler-free.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Snay, I'll go with Tim on this and leave this thread spoiler free. However, I have created a thread with spoiler warnings here for the actual story discussion.
Futurama Guy, I agree with most of what you're saying, but even if the primary audience for the books is aimed at children it doesn't mean that the older audiences are excluded. After all, look at how big Transformers are among adults and look at who the series have been primarily marketed to.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
But the thing with Transformers is that they were a cartoon/toys introduced in something like 1982, so like the Lego Legends/Star Wars, they are toys (or a tv show) that is intentionally aimed at those adults in their 20's who have money and can go buy the toys they could never have when they were 6 or for even further sentimental or nostalgic reasons. Harry Potter, on the other hand, is a new phenomenon, to the Transformers and X-Men's new spin-offs 10-20year history.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
As a comic book, the X-Men have been around a lot longer than that.
And the difference between the Transformers and Harry Potter is that the Transformers were really never more than a toy line that advertised in comic and cartoon form, rather than commercials. Harry Potter is well-conceived literature, even if it's a little lacking in such "adult" attributes as rampant sex and gore.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
...don't forget fast cars!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, it has got a flying car. I don't know if that counts. A little too Absent-Minded Professor-ish, perhaps.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Okay, guys, okay! I give up! I was just trying to make the point that just because the primary audience of a product is aimed at a young crowd doesn't mean that it forbidden to be enjoyed by an older crowd.
Posted by Futurama Guy (Member # 968) on :
Forbidden, no. Frowned upon, yes! Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Frowned upon by anybody who matters? Probably not.
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