No word on when, though.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Oh, come on, they do this every six months. It's usually a ploy to sell the latest episodes released on DVD (formerly video, laserdisc, etc. . .). Then of course there are the 'lost episodes' they make so much of finding all the time, never mind that they'd never have been lost if the BBC had bothered to maintain decent archives in the first place. . .
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Actually, I think they're actualy serious this time; BBC Worldwide (The BBc's commercial arm-which owns the rights) has given BBC 1 permission to do it and they've given up trying to persuade Hollywood to make a film. Personally, I think they should have gone to Bollywood...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
1. Paul McGann or nothing 2. There is no audience for it atm - the Sci Fi/Fan genre is over-saturated. Although UK Sci Fi?? 3. Paul McGann or nothing 4. Those funky huge, elaborate, beautiful sets from the TV movie.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
For the 1999 Comic Relief Red Nose Day, they filmed a short one-off spoof which started off with Rowan Atkinson as the Doctor, only to have him repeatedly killed and regenerated as, among others, Jim Broadbent and Richard E Grant. All of them were brilliant and I could easily see any of them playing the Doctor.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Richard E. Grant, Paul McGann and Alan davies are among the possibles. Unless they completely screw it up I imagine people will watch it anyway, despite the 'saturation' of the sci-fi market- it is Dr Who, after all.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
But the problem is they treat all SF shows the same way. Remember Bugs? Remember Crime Traveller? That really sucked. Remember the new Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased)? That should have been relegated to a one-off Red Nose Day sketch, the idea - Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer as Hopkirk and Randall, respectively - was good but the execution sorely lacked. Or how about the later Red Dwarf? Ugh.
That said, everyone seemed quite impressed by Strange though I never watched it myself.
If ony they'd made more Ultraviolet, that was quite good. But by C4 not the BBC.
Posted by Mountain Man (Member # 1114) on :
I've been checking out the flash animated Dr.Who occasionaly and the never filmed script. It would be nice if it came back as a well written and well filmed continuation of the series. It was one of the few Sci Fi series on TV when I was growing up. There was alot of reality to escape from back then. The good Doctor had the cure.
[ September 26, 2003, 09:00 AM: Message edited by: Mountain Man ]
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Of course, we're still waiting for Anthony Stewart Head in the US-UK joint venture Ripper show. Though anyone holding their breath for it must be turning blue by now. I halfway suspect the reason the BBC made Strange was that they panicked upon realising they would have to make a decent SF show and actually support and promote it, so rushed out something similar so they could then claim they didn't want to repeat themselves.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Lee, you're completely right, or course (although series 8 of Red Dwarf was far better than series 7).
And you didn't miss much with Strange; it was just bad. I really can't see why anyone was impressed with it (although I know people who did think it was quite good).
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Plus, the Red Dwarf movie actually beings filming next month. After a mere two and a half year build up. Crazy.
Are they going to maintain continuity with the old show (and movie)? Because if they are, and ignoring the Comic Relief special, we'll be up to the 9th doctor. Only 5 more to go. Or is it 4? (I can never remember if a Time Lord has 13 lives, or he can regenerate 13 times). Although, I suppose, coming up with a tech way around that wouldn't be too hard.
Richard E Grant! Come on, he's done nothing good for ages. And it'll stop him making Argos Adverst.
I liked the new Randall and Hobkirk (Deceased). You are clearly wrong Lee. Bad boy.
Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
As far as I can remember the Time lords can regenerate 13 times. Wasn't there a late Mcoy epsidoe where he has to stop the Master, who had used up all his regenerations, trying to use some sort of gas to allow himself another 13 regenerations? I remember some speculation at the time that as the Doctor had been near the gas it ment that he had another 13 regenerations.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
A time lord has twelve regenerations, meaning thirteen incarnations. McGann is/was number nine.
In "Survival", the episode in question, I don't think the Master was after additional lives per se... I think he was just infected by those cheetah people or something. The Master by that time was on his fourteenth incarnation, having stolen an additional life by taking that of Tremas waaaay back in the late days of the fourth Doctor. His fifteenth incarnation was briefly seen being exterminated by the Daleks in the Doctor Who TV movie, whereupon his "remains" got a sixteenth body in the form of Eric Roberts. By this time, the Master was barely Gallifreyan anymore by most accounts, having used many different methods in attempts to extend his life.
Point being I guess that if and when the Doctor gets to his thirteenth incarnation (and I hope they actually do something about the Valeyard at that point), he'll have no problem getting additional lives, and probably without having to take them as the Master did. It's sci-fi, after all.
Mark
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
<-- has never once in his life seen a Dr. Who episode
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Who in fuck are Richard E. Grant or Paul McGann?
Hoookay! Paul McGann is my choice: he really WAS good in that terrible movie version (althoufg he needs a leaf blower for his Tardis). Richard E. Grant might make a good Master though.
RObert Palmer could be Davros!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It's a time-travelin' Double-Post! I blame the Cybermen!
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
quote:RObert Palmer could be Davros!
Because non-Americans dying is always funny.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
OK yeah the TV movie may have sucked but Paul McGann was just brill in the part.
I loved his clothes and those TARDIS sets were just jaw-dropping - and something I would expect the TARDIS to have/be. It was nice to have the tie in with Sylvester McCoy.
William Hartnell Patrick Troughton Jon Pertwee Tom Baker Peter Davison Colin Baker Sylvester McCoy Paul McGann
Who will they get to play Peri's breasts? Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
We don't see the Master being exterminated by the Daleks in the TV movie, so it could easily be Antony Ainsley's (that's from memory, so it could well be wrong) body.
What was up with the Daleks there anyway? Since when did they kill someone and then allow their mortal enemy the chance to take his body away?
And was Roy Skelleton doing the Dalek voices?
Doing something with the Valeyard would involve me remembering "Trial of a Time Lord". And no-one wants that to happen.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lee:
quote:RObert Palmer could be Davros!
Because non-Americans dying is always funny.
Well, Yeah. There is that. Really, a dead (actor that played Bull from Night Court) would be ideal. Patrick Stewart could be a great Davros! We've never seen him play a real bastard before.... Hmmmm...mabye Richard E. Grant could play Omega brought back to life somehow.
If the BBC give the new run anything like a budget it'll be great.
Heres to hoping!
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Richard Moll (Bull) is not dead!
>We don't see the Master being exterminated by >the Daleks in the TV movie, so it could easily >be Antony Ainsley's (that's from memory, so it >could well be wrong) body.
Nope. We see a much younger, thinner guy in manacles being vapourized under some mushroom dome hat thing. Fandom has mostly accepted that the Master at some point found another body and rid himself of the disease in "Survival", but was then caught by the Daleks.
>What was up with the Daleks there anyway? Since >when did they kill someone and then allow their >mortal enemy the chance to take his body away?
Bad writing. But it's also possible that the Doctor, who has been the envoy of the Time Lords on several occasions, was part of a political settlement between two time-travelling species. The Daleks really WANTED to kill the Doctor, but they couldn't.
>And was Roy Skelleton doing the Dalek voices?
Who?
>Doing something with the Valeyard would involve >me remembering "Trial of a Time Lord". And >no-one wants that to happen.
I liked that particular season. And several novels try to "take care" of the Valeyard... In short, most of the Sixth Doctor's odd behaviour during his tenure on the show, and in most of his novels, was because he had the potential to become the Valeyard. His regeneration into the seventh doctor - apparently due to a bump on the head in the TV series - was actually a planned event, to avoid his ultimate transformation into the Valeyard, and to have his subsequent incaration try to fix some of the chaos that he inadvertently wrought. I've not kept up with the novels at all, but it seems to have worked...
Mark
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: <-- has never once in his life seen a Dr. Who episode
Me neither. Has it ever even been on Dutch TV?
Posted by CaptainMike20X6 (Member # 709) on :
i used to watch Dr Who regularly on Public Broadcasting when i was a lad.. but watching Who was kind of like slowing down to observe a car wreck. not something you wanted to do, but the morbid fascination just took hold.. plus the theme music rocks
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: >And was Roy Skelleton doing the Dalek voices?
Who?
Dalek Voice God Supreme.
Posted by Triton (Member # 1043) on :
Well the BBC could totally forget about the events of Dr. Who: The Movie starring Paul McGann like they did Dr. Who and the Daleks(1965) and Invasion Earth 2150 A.D(1996) starring Peter Cushing as the Doctor.
I wouldn't describe the television market as being saturated with science fiction programming so much as it is saturated with bad science fiction programming. The last enjoyable science fiction series that I watched wasFarscape, and that was recently cancelled. Although I haven't watched it, I understand that Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda has a pretty large fan following.
I hope that the new show runner for the new Dr. Who television series understands what made the previous series so special and entertaining. I especially enjoyed the series when it starred Tom Baker and Douglas Adams served as story editor.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:I understand that Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda has a pretty large fan following.
Isn't that the series with Hercules-guy? How could you watch that without throwing things at your tv?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well, it's catered to a monkey's comprehension level after all. Posted by Brian Whisenhunt (Member # 1095) on :
quote: Point being I guess that if and when the Doctor gets to his thirteenth incarnation (and I hope they actually do something about the Valeyard at that point), he'll have no problem getting additional lives, and probably without having to take them as the Master did. It's sci-fi, after all.
Actually, he'll just find the "Key to Time" again and become the White Guardian. Then he'll travel in a Nokia cell phone and replace Carrottop in those 1-800-c-a-l-l-a-t-t commercials. Posted by ZARDOZ (Member # 1064) on :
Red Dwarf, Blake's 7 , Thunderbirds, and now the Doctor! That 'Space 1999' movie can't be far off now! Maybe Edward James Olmos will play Martin Landau's part!
Casting the Doctor and the Master? Paul McGann and Alan Rickman !
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike20X6: i used to watch Dr Who regularly on Public Broadcasting when i was a lad.. but watching Who was kind of like slowing down to observe a car wreck. not something you wanted to do, but the morbid fascination just took hold.. plus the theme music rocks
Look for a very good and recent version of the Doctor Who theme - done by the 'group' "Orbital" it was called "Doctor?" or just "Doctor". Watch out for pesky remixes and get the album version.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Richard E. Grant could play Omega brought back to life somehow.
*English accent*
I'm not dead!
Although I haven't watched it, I understand that Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda has a pretty large fan following.
But that is. Dead, I mean. After Sorbo got rid of RHW, the show creator, half way through the second season, the whole thing turned to crap. They've had a couple decent eps since then, but the show overall isn't nearly what it used to be. It went from having a scope as large as Babylon 5 to having a scope as large as TNG. The sad thing is, Sorbo is actually a decent actor. He just shouldn't be running the show.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Alan Davies is the bookies favourite at the moment, despite calls from certain people (Paul McGann) for it to be a woman.
Also patrick stewart is also in the running. And the odds are 88-1 on Sir Michael Caine.
"I am the Doctor. Not a lotta people know that..."
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"It went from having a scope as large as Babylon 5 to having a scope as large as TNG."
TNG? I think "Hercules" would be more appropriate.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Hey, at least Hercules had story arcs. I didn't watch it all that much, but the two-parter where Hope sent Callisto back in time to kill Herc's mother was... very, very cool. For Hercules.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Xena was better.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Well, it had Renee O'Connor. That goes without saying.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Mmmm... Renee O'Connor...
They should've spun off a Gabrielle series. I would have watched that.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Because she was the non-threatening piece of crumpet! Like Willow! Yum.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
You obviously missed the later seasons' kick-ass Gabby.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Okay - as I understand it, someone was thinking of officially continuing the Doctor Who story by regenerating him into his ninth incarnation - in audio adventures. Th'hell? What was the deal, and has this changed with the advent of a renewed TV show?
The BBC has now commissioned a new TV series.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Wasn't there a limit placed on how many incarnations the Doctor can have? What was that number?
Did the list of actors who have played the Doctor given a page or so back include the chap who played him at the beginning of the television movie (which I have on tape) but got shot not too far into it? Or is it just assumed that he is the same person who was last playing him on the series?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
As I posted earlier, a Time Lord can regenerate twelve times under normal circumstances. At the beginning of the (underappreciated, IMO) TV movie, Sylvester McCoy did indeed reprise his role as the seventh Doctor, albeit with a more normal attire (though his hat is the exact one he used in the series). He did last too long, but ironically it wasn't the bullets that killed him - it was the doctors trying to save him, and not being familiar with his two-hearted physiology.
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Whoops... sorry Mark, I must have skipped over your post.
It's very cool that they used the same guy who had been the Doctor in the series. I remember wondering about that when I first saw the movie.
Not being very familiar with the series, can the Time Lords control what they look like in their regenerations or is it just as much a surprise to them as it is to everyone else?
I, for one, think a female Doctor would be great as long as it doesn't go against any established thing. But then, I always think hot women should be lead characters.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I agree - but IMO the Doc should always be male. There's nothing to say that he CAN'T be, but in 40 years of canon, it's never mentioned - every regenerated Time Lord he's ever encountered (which is a cheap way of recasting guest roles, BTW) has remained their original gender.
Also, Time Lords don't get to choose their appearance, per se. One novel suggests that many Time Lords tend to become older and more graceful as they proceed through their incarnations, and that the Doctor is a raity as he jumps back in forth in appearance and age. Another one suggests that the Doctor keeps his future bodies in a hidden room aboard the TARDIS in temporal stasis or something. I'm loathe to believe any of the novels' minutiae, and take the TV show as the best canon - though the show itself may have more contradictions than Trek, it's got lots of alternate realities and stuff to explain it all away.
Mark
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I'm going to have to dig up that tape with the movie on it. I always thought is was decent. Certainly not terrible. And the TARDIS sets were incredibly sweet.
So, did the show ever deal with modern time periods, or did it always show the Doctor ending up in the future? I know he also went to other plants and stuff, and got the impression that very little of the show actually took place on Earth.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The show frequently dealt with the present time, or the near future. In fact, the third Doctor spent a huge chunk of his tenure EXILED to Earth of the present (well, the early seventies). They went to the past almost as frequently, as period costumes are easier to rent than to make new futuristic costumes.
I'd love for the '96 movie to be released on DVD some day... I lost the tape years ago. I still hate FOX for not choosing Doctor Who as a new series, and going with Sliders instead. Stoopid networks.
Mark
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Is that what happened!?! They went with SLIDERS over Dr. Who!?!?!?!?!
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I lost track of SLiders after the second season, I think. It was ok, but the good Doctor would'v been far better.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
In early 1995, FOX considered shows to add some sci-fi prgramming to their lineup. Sliders was given a 9-episode commitment as a mid-season replacement, while Doctor Who was slotted for a 90-minute TV movie that would air the following spring. Both were filmed in Vancouver, BC.
Ultimately, they chose the wrong one, and after a moderate first couple seasons of Sliders (which was renewed for a second season to round out a syndication-friendly batch of 22 episodes), it descended into pretty crappy stuff that not even a move to Sci-Fi could save.
Mark
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
At one time there was a fascinating website that dished all the dirt about how Sliders went downhill - Rhys Davies' and O'Connell's frustrations that led them to leave, why they got rid of the original girl in so shoddy a fashion. . . Can't find it anymore.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Yes, indeedy!
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Hmmm... that's interesting about Kari Wuhrer (SP?). She was uberHot, but I can totally see her being a pain to work with.
Are there any good sites you know of off the top of your head that could give me an overview of the Dr. Who series? Obviously, there's a lot of material to cover, but I'd like to bone up.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Lorraine Heggessey, Controller of BBC One, has confirmed that all rights issues regarding Doctor Who have been resolved and has green-lit scripts from writer Russell T Davies.
The statement notes that it is far too early in the day to discuss possible storylines, characters, villains or who might play the Doctor. It also states that it is unlikely anything will be on screen for at least two years.
It will be a family show, but no details are available on when it will be scheduled.
Doctor Who will be produced by BBC Wales in conjunction with Mal Young, Controller of BBC Continuing Series. The executive producers will be Mal Young, Russell T. Davies and Julie Gardner, Head of Drama BBC Wales. Russell T. Davies's writing credits include Bob and Rose, Queer as Folk, The Second Coming, Touching Evil (with Paul Abbott) and The Grand.
Mal Young says: "Doctor Who is a much-loved, truly iconic piece of television history. It's time to crank up the TARDIS and find out what lies in store for the Doctor. We're thrilled to have a writer of Russell's calibre to take us on this journey. However, we're at the very early stages of development and further details, including casting, will not be available for some time."
Award-winning writer Russell T. Davies says: "I grew up watching Doctor Who, hiding behind the sofa like so many others. Doctor Who is one of the BBC's most exciting and original characters. He's had a good rest and now it's time to bring him back!
"The new series will be fun, exciting, contemporary and scary. Although I'm only in the early stages of development, I'm aiming to write a full-blooded drama which embraces the Doctor Who heritage, at the same time as introducing the character to a modern audience."
A report in the Telegraph mentions that six episodes have been commissioned, but there is no information on this in the BBC statement.
A BBCi animated series starring Richard E Grant as the Doctor launches to celebrate the show's 40th anniversary. His adventures will keep you entertained while you're waiting for the new TV series to arrive.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Sweet site... I can see myself becomming addicted to this show pretty quickly...
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Not that you'd be able to see it, unless you're moving to Britain, or you've got Digital �bercable and BBC America shows it.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I meant the franchise in general. But the new show would surely be released on DVD eventually, yes?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Yes - what's sure to be all six episodes of the season.
Actually, that's something of a worry for me. BBC shows are often known for their great writing but low production values and short seasons. Great BBC shows like "Coupling" and "Red Dwarf" are limited to six or eight episodes per season, and even a top-rated BBC drama like "Spooks" has only ten episodes in its second season (the first was six).
Heck, Doctor Who started out with FORTY THREE episodes in a season, and by its final four seasons it was down to thirteen half-hour episodes a year. Certainly nothing to match Hollywood's standard of 22 or 26 episodes a season, regardless of length.
I'm all for quality over quantity, but even still...
While I'm at it, I figure that this forthcoming radio/animation Doctor starring Richard E. Grant as the ninth Doctor will will fall into the realm of the various "alternate" doctors that occur over hiatus. There's the Dalek movies featuring "Dr. Who", and a stage play with Trevor Martin as the fourth Doctor in the hiatus following Jon Pertwee's departure from the show and before they found out he'd be replaced by the dude with the scarf. Not to mention Doctors 9-13 played by Rowan Atkinson, Hugh Grant, Richard Grant (again) and the rest of those actors (Including a woman!) - mind you, this is a good thing.
Mark
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Peter Davison= Best Doctor. Ever.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I always thought British shows in general were around six or eight episodes per year. I didn't know that was peculiar to the BBC.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Peter Davison= Best Doctor. Ever.
I liked his Doctor.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Damn, I forgot Hugh Grant played one of the Comic Relief Doctors.
Tim: traditionally, most UK shows seem to hover around the six-to-eight-episode mark, not just the BBC. Some drama shows seem to manage twelve occasionally, but bear in mind they're longer - fifty minutes usually. I don't really see enough UK TV to speak with total confidence about trends in series (our word for season) size.
Miniseries seem to have become popular in recent years. Touching Evil, Messiah, Waking the Dead, Prime Suspect. . . Then there are the shows that operate at telemovie length: Inspector Morse, A Touch of Frost, etc.
Posted by Brian Whisenhunt (Member # 1095) on :
Sorry, but the Tom Baker "Doctor" was the one that I enjoyed most. (Never say McCoys'....how Ironic a DOCTOR named MCCOY?) His humor and nonchalance just bordered on arrogance but it was always directed only at the idiots he encountered and not just a shotgun approach to people in general.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
John Pertwee was really good with the sarcasm and rolling eyes too. More of a bitter old man kind way though, so it's a good transition from Pertwee to Baker to Davison: He becomes less grouchy as he gets younger. ...and as the companions get hotter. A coincidence, of course. Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I think the ones I remmeber seeing on PBS starred Tom Baker. I remember them being very long... but I think they strung a bunch of episodes together.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
The typical Doctor Who storyline was three or four episodes long - for American syndication in the seventies (I think), they strung them together (poorly, sometimes) and sold 'em off that way. I believe they still show the individual episodes on some European channels.
Mark
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
I'm sure they're repeated on UK Gold or BBC 4 or something... most things are. Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
They're repeated on UK Gold roughly seven billion times a day. They're on DVD too (both Region 1 and region 2), if you're keen.
The original episodes were half hour (or 24-28 minutes), and the stories ranged from 3 to 13 episodes long (scary crazy Daleks running everywhere!)
The original point of the show was partly educational. During Hartnel's tenure they'd often have stories set on past-day Earth. They got dropped as the series went on, but present day Earth stories became more popular.
During either Davison or Colin Baker's time (I can't remember), the episodes became 45 minutes long, but only for a brief time.
Also, the number of episodes shown over a year gradually decreased.
And to add to Lee: The reason that most British shows are only 6-10 episodes long a season is that they are often written by just one or two people, rather than the big teams US sitcoms have.
And Red Dwarf had low production values? Okay, the sets for seasons 1 and 2 were pretty bad, but the ship shots were pretty close to early TNG levels, at a fraction of the cost.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Yeah and the old model Red Dwarf with the rock sticking out of it was MUCH better and more realistic than that pathetic CGI contraption they did.
Can anyone tell me with the DVDs do they have the old episodes that DON'T have the cuts in them. I remember one of my favourite scenes from "Better than Life" was cut... where Cat's fantasy "Miranda the Mermaid" appears on the Golf course... of course the bottom was human and the top fish - and he did a 'licky-licky' motion with his tounge.
There are lots of other cuts in at least season 1 and 2 that I've seen... some quite annoying.
Andrew
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Good news, Andrew, as far as I can tell, the episodes on the DVDs are the original versions. No CGI effects (at least up to now, season 1 and 2), no cut scenes. But a lot of extended and deleted scenes as bonus material. But that material was never aired before.
Oh yes, the Miranda the mermaid scene IS in the episode on the DVD.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
WOOHOO! Looks like I'll be forking out for these DVDs then!! Yeehaa! I love that original theme music.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Try play.com! Seasons 2 and 3 are 14,99 Pounds, Season 1 is 11,99. Season 3 is pre-order of course. How much are they in Australia?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I'm not too sure... $AUS30->40??
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Hmm, have to get my Abacus...
Seems to be a little more expensive than in GB. Well small wonder.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Finally, somewhere more expensive than the UK!
I paid �12.99 for series 2.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Once the "promote the remastered versions as if they are better than sex with sexy uni freshers" hoo-hah had died down, Doug Naylor admitted to being unhappy with the special-editions. He said that they had been promised more money than they had actually received.
Plus there's also the fact that they were given that "film-quality" visual treatment to tie into season 7, and then season 8 went back to normal video.
Of course, now they've got a problem when it comes to season 8. The two times we saw RD in season 7, it was old style, including when it reappeared at the end, but in the following season, it's in the new style, a style which now never existed.
I wonder which style they'll be going with for the movie, or whether it will (most likely) be redesigned again?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Of course, now they've got a problem when it comes to season 8. The two times we saw RD in season 7, it was old style, including when it reappeared at the end, but in the following season, it's in the new style, a style which now never existed."
I don't completely remember the transition from the seventh to eighth seasons (not "series"? Are you going American?), but I do remember that the recreated Captain Hollister commented that the ship was suddenly built according to the original plans, which I took to be an explanation of why the rebuilt (CGI) ship didn't look like the old (model) ship.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Yup. At the beginning of 8.1, the ship is actually re-sizing and re-shaping as Starbug is flying thorugh it. By the time they're done, the Dwarf is to its original design specs before all the JMC cutbacks - this means they now have stuff like a quark-level matter/antimatter generator, a ship-wide bio-organic computer network, and even a karaoke bar on C Deck.
Umm, shouldn't this be a DOCTOR WHO thread..?
Mark
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
For some reason, every book I've read on Red Dwarf always says "season" rather than "series". But then the DVD releases say "series", I think. So, er, yeah.
I had a look at the storyboard images that are up on the net for the movie, and it does look like the CGI Red Dwarf, rather than the original. Shame, but the drawings aren't overly clear, and lots can change between storyboard and shooting.
And, er, some Doctor Who people say "season", and some say "series", and it, er, had 27 seasons. Or series. So there.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Even the American "Red Dwarf" DVDs say "series" on them.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Well, I finally found my Dr. Who movie on tape and started watching it this morning. Paul McGann is cool and Grace is an uberHottie. Eric Roberts is Eric Roberts with all his lippy Eric Robertsness. I'm once again blown away by the TARDIS interiors. So cool.
The scene where he pulled the cardiac probe out made me cringe.
I also noticed that the control screen at the beginning of the movie showed that the TARDIS' destination was Gallifrey. He must've been taking the Master back home. Question: did the BBC series end with the Master getting killed? Is this movie picking up from that event? Or is it starting after some unknown adventure in which the Master was apparently killed by the Doctor?
"Whatever you're about to do, stop! I'm not human. I'm not like you!"
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
At the end of "Survival", the TV series' last story, the Master and the Doc were fighting on the planet of the cheetah people. Upon the planet's destruction, the Doctor said that everyone on it had been transported "home", implying the Master had gone back to Gallifrey. The Doctor ended up on Earth obstensibly because he had adopted it AS his home.
The next time we see the Master is at the beginning of the TV movie, where he looks much younger from under the mushroom cap thing he got vaporized in. As mentioned earlier, most fans accept that he'd found himself another body in the interm, and gotten himself the ability to become all slimy and possesive ove Eric Roberts.
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